UFO Conjecture(s)

Wednesday, May 16, 2007

UFOs: What did the government know and when did it know it?


It’s obvious to even the most laggard UFO buff that the United States government and its military (along with a few other countries of the world) has know about and has investigated flying saucers and UFOs since 1947 and maybe before.

The Projects Sign, Grudge, Blue Book, and such entities as the Roberson Panel, plus documents garnered by way of the Freedom of Information Act show, overwhelmingly, that various U.S. agencies, including the FBI, CIA, NSA, and others, have scrutinized UFO sightings for years, maybe even capturing one of the elusive craft that was once designated “flying disk.”

And aside from the disclaimers, with provisos that the phenomenon, even in its tangible form (flying saucer), posed and poses no threat to the security of this country or any other country, the military continues to seek more from the appearances known as unidentified flying objects (or, in military-speak, unidentified aerial phenomena).

It’s even possible that if a flying disk has ever been downed, the military got their hands on it, and have back-engineered some of the technology that now shows up in Stealth, Aurora, and other esoteric aircraft of the Navy and Air Force.


But where do those possibilities take us?

The United States military constructs would kill to have a threat from interplanetary visitors made obvious. Such a disclosure would guarantee massive funds and a profound imprimatur for an expanded military presence here, and in other countries as well.

Just as the threat of terrorism has brought new agencies into existence, with vast amounts of monies to keep them extant, an alien hostility would do even more.

This is what undercuts the conspiracy theories of UFO fanatics, who think the government and its military adjuncts are holding back UFO information or covering up data and materials that prove an extraterrestrial existence has penetrated Earth’s skies and even its populations.

The militaries of the Earth have always, if history is any guide, conspired, not to be secretive, but to create circumstances and scenarios to enhance their status and prominence – from the time of Alexander (and before) to now, and the Iraq war.


If UFOs (flying saucers) were a threat, ever, no one in the government here or elsewhere has acted with determination.

Yes, there have been incidents, sparse and mostly generated by hysteria (Rendlesham Forest is one, and there are a few others), but none have turned out to be significant within a confrontational military context.


So, as we contend, UFOs are benign, unless one accepts the Jacques Vallee hypothesis that maybe UFOs are corrupting our culture and civilization in abstract or psychological ways.

But that for another time….


  • [Posted on behalf of a person who didn't want to register with Google in order to comment here.]

    OK. First you go under the assumption that the Iraq war
    is simply a military fishing expedition for rescources or somthing. There has been no proof of this despite liberal thinking on the matter. It is a proven fact
    that Saddam violated multiple UN resolutions which the security council never wanted to enforce due to..ahem..vested interests. This is not to debate the war, just throwing a little water on your war theory fire. Second it may be said that the military/ government sees a far more dangerous disorder coming out of disclosure..ie..social chaos and complete breakdown of society, social power structure, and that this threat far outweights (IMHO)
    any benefit they would reap from such disclosure. Your response [is] welcome...

    Our response:

    Firstly, we don't want to turn this blog into an Iraq war blog, but we'll note, for the record, that our take on Saddam Hussein is that, no matter how scurrilous he was, he understood his people and his country, and kept the vast majority secure, if not totally free.

    That's not ideal surely, but it worked.

    As for the government/military not disclosing their "secret" information about UFOs to avoid panic and chaos....well, that doesn't fly with us.

    The military couldn't care less about panic, and the government bureaucracy is too inane to understand the sociologic ramifications of mob hysteria should they (the rabble) be told that extraterrestrial beings exist and are visiting the Earth.

    Humankind is too absorbed with prices of gas, grilling outdoors, and generally screwing around to care whether aliens are scouting the premises in their flying saucers.

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, May 16, 2007  

  • The UFO cover-up has nothing to do with panic or chaos, but entirely with control of technology and money.
    The fact exists that if they do have the technology to cleanly produce unlimited energy, think of those ramifications to current economic development. Electric Companies and Petroleum Companies made instantly obsolete. Plus, the fact that if they were to admit now that they have been recovering and studying UFOs, we would probably all get together and lynch them.

    By Blogger zero xavier, at Thursday, May 17, 2007  

  • Zero:

    No group of vigilantes would be able to determine who covered-up, since most are either dead, retired, or incognito.

    Moreover, the idea that a cabal of greedy capitalists controls all things sociologic is a bit loopy.

    Furthermore, what makes UFO believers think that aliens have the technologies to produce unlimited energy (for free or without encumbrances of any kind) or any other kind of materialistic salvation?

    For some goofy reason(s), ufologists think extraterrestrials have an "divine-like" ability that governments and their militaries don't want humankind to know about.

    It's ludicrous....

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, May 17, 2007  

  • The concept of a omniscient Government Conspiracy reminds me of the title of one of my favorite books which I think aptly describes intelligence activities in regard to controlling what to date eludes control. Governmental efforts to covertly hide that they are clueless could be called "A Confederacy of Dunces."
    However, even the CIA on it's website library admits manipulating the UFO situation to some degree. The ultimate extension of this lunacy would be to stage a fake extraterrestrial landing and manipulate the largest maximum of ignorance available, which is enormous. Well, then again, we have Roswell...or do we..? What if UFO's finished their mission and just left? Now that would be interesting...

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Monday, May 21, 2007  

  • A good article. Focuses on the macro issues of the conspiracy instead of going into the more meaningless details, more meaningless for those who are intersted in understanding the conspiracy and not just running around hasty, screaming about the latest reported sighting.

    I don't see though how the reported aliens are benign. They don't show themselves, and when they do they act misteriously, draw all kind of puzzling crop-circles. If they are benign why can't they just come out and announce to the whole world, we are here, the universe is vast, it's ok, etc.? Wouldn't it save much of the confusion? To me the behaviour of the reported aliens is not straight-forward and is not benign. Maybe it resembles certain aspects of personal behaviour of much of the ufologists who report them?

    By Blogger micha90210, at Wednesday, May 23, 2007  

  • A comment to zero xavier:

    If they do have an unlimited energy source, what do they want from us? To be our pop-stars?

    By Blogger micha90210, at Wednesday, May 23, 2007  

  • The Mystery Airships were probably secret test flights of experimental Dirigibles.

    By Blogger spiritualbrother, at Sunday, May 27, 2007  

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