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Monday, July 02, 2007

Heed this!


Frank Warren (whose blog may be found at http://frankwarren.blogspot.com/) posted the following about the circulating Haut (Roswell-related) affidavit at UFO UpDates:

From: Frank Warren
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 13:18:58 -0700
Subject: Re: The Walter G. Haut Affidavit

Fellow Listers,

Extracted from:

Witness to Roswell: Unmasking the 60-Year Cover-Up by Thomas J. Carey and Donald R. Schmitt

I would like to make it clear, that the following views are mine alone.

First I question how the affidavit was done in regard to Walter's declaration.

When Dennis & Wendy interviewed Walter in 2000, he was often confused and had difficulty remembering various things during the session(s); in my unprofessional opinion it appeared to me he was exhibiting the initial stages of either Alzheimer's and/or dementia.

That said, he did in fact (in response to a question) answer in the affirmative regarding seeing (substantial) wreckage and or bodies.

I haven't viewed the tape recently, and am relying on my written notes from when I did, but will be reviewing it again today. According to my notes, I counted 4 times where he said he didn't see anything!

During an appearance on Larry King in 2003, Walter, again, appeared very confused and in this instance could not finish the segment. Prior to unexpectedly exiting the interview, King asked, "Did you, Walter, ever see any of the wreckage?"

Walter replied, "No."

As one can see the affidavit which no doubt was signed by Walter Haut was written in a very clear and concise manner including times, dates, names etc. From what I have seen myself e.g., the interview by Wendy & Dennis, as well as the public appearance, albeit brief, this was a man that would have much difficulty - to be polite - in accomplishing this task.

So, I am very curious as to how this declaration was performed; was it prepared by someone else - perhaps Schmitt and Walter just signed it? Were questions asked in sequence, and he answered them? I think this paramount in evaluating the worth of the affidavit.

Obviously, placing Ramey in Roswell on the 8th is monumental, and most certainly needs to be looked into, again.

Finally, for clarity, I don't question the fact that an extraterrestrial craft/s was recovered, i.e., the Roswell Incident, or the post cover-up; I question Walter's involvement regarding his seeing wreckage himself, and or bodies; furthermore, given his own contradictory statements regarding his actually seeing wreckage and or bodies, in my view, the affidavit that is now on the table doesn't carry much weight.


Frank Warren


  • Frank Warren's observations clearly delinate the limits of paper "evidence." Even under the best circumstances imaginable, the impact of a single "smoking gun" document is tenative.

    If there is any reasonable doubt, even an iota, it just becomes another artifact in the curio cabinet. Having said that, I think there is a critical factor as to the impact of any document, that is, the media must take the ball and run with it, and unless they throw their weight behind the application of pressure to the powers that be, it is nothing more than a stillborn factoid that floats hither and yon on the internet, held up by a relatively small cadre of interested parties.

    If there is a hint of dubious authenticity, which in this case, there is more than enough to consign this to the fog.

    Interestingly, the circumstances of its authoring, and the attendant doubt of its veracity, it would be supremely ironic, should his account actually be true.

    Has the well become so poisoned by half baked and undercooked evidence that the whole subject is now considered a vital ingrediant soley for cranks, conspiracy theorists?

    If a "real" document surfaced..one has to wonder who or what could verify it? More importantly, who would have the will power...would think it worthwhile to invest the time and resources, on a subject with a long history of manufactured evidence?

    Would such an investigation label the hapless one undertaking it a crank?

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Thursday, July 05, 2007  

  • Bruce (et al.):

    The UFO well has been poisoned by a myriad of toxic "ingredients."

    Can the situation be reversed? We don't think so.

    One would have to go back in time (at least to 1947) and start the whole flying saucer/UFO investigation(s) over again, and make sure that the current crop of "ufologists" don't get their hands on even one UFO case -- not one.

    (And we name, elsewhere, the UFO bastards and creeps that have brought about the ruin of UFO investigation and continue to do so unabated right up to today.)

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, July 05, 2007  

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