UFO Conjecture(s)

Tuesday, August 19, 2008

Where is the UFO "wow factor"?


Frank Warren’s UFO blog has an interview with a colonel who says he saw a UFO crash in Mexico some years ago:

Frank Warren blog account

Notice how blasé the aged colonel is as he relates his tale.

When NASA scientists and technicians land a rover on Mar or achieve some other outer space deployment, they, en masse, get giddy and child-like in their enthusiasm.

NASA, and other achievers (such as Olympic winners and their families) become hyper-emotional during and after their feats. The élan infects bystanders and participants alike,


But when flying saucer observers, and the Roswell contingent in particular, like the colonel above, remain unenthused, prosaic, and typically example a severe case of ennui, even though they say they’ve experienced something profound, transcendental.

Joseph Capp, a peripheral ufologist, exalts UFO witnesses; they are the crème de la crème of the UFO community he thinks.

But why are those witnesses so becalmed in the wake of their potential epiphanous experiences?

Where’s the élan that the NASA people exhibit when they partake in things that have much less of a “wow factor” than a UFO sighting or crash (with alien bodies)?

Just as we promote the idea that Truman, alleged MJ-12 members, military personnel, and other government operatives remained too ordinary after they saw UFO debris and bodies from flying saucer accidents, in Roswell and other places, so too do we challenge the psychological aftermath of UFO witnesses and abductees.


If they’ve all experienced what they say they’ve experienced, and they are not suffering a kind of war-like stress syndrome, or mentally acute state of denial, these people are creative automatons, with stories that don’t make sense in the light of their apathetic recounting of their stories.

It just doesn’t make psychological sense.

So, the Roswell “witnesses,” Betty and Barney Hill, Travis Walton, Frank Warren’s colonel,et al. can be dismissed, entirely, despite the attempt by Joseph Capp and others to gild them with laurel wreaths.

Their passivity has done them in…..


  • Wow factor indeed. It's a valid point. People should be freaking out but they aren't. I'm fast approaching the put up or shut up phase. I mean, I'm not sure I want to hear another person's "I seen it" tale with no corroboration and certainly no evidence. I mean, it's fine for what I write, but on a personal level... How many times can you hear the same basic stories?

    By Blogger Cullan Hudson, at Tuesday, August 19, 2008  

  • Could I agree more, Cullan?

    It is indeed wearying to hear the stories but get nothing to corroborate them.

    Remember that old TV maxim, "Where's the beef?"


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, August 19, 2008  

  • I'm not going to tire you all with my wearying "I seen it" stories, don't worry.

    The reason no-one is 'stoked', transcendentally jazzed, totally revolutionised, etc., is pretty simple, and given beautiful example by the first two comments.

    As a witness to strange things, if you want to avoid having loved ones looking at you with fear and sadness, family and friends shying away, neighbours pointing at you and laughing when you go by, and random strangers dismissing you in a condescending manner, then you very, very quickly learn to keep your damn mouth shut and pretend nothing happened.

    Most people get the idea the first time they say anything, and their nearest and dearest stare at them with that look of "Oh please God, say he hasn't gone mad."

    From then on, when and if you do talk about it, you make damn sure to do it in a cautious, even semi-humorous manner, and you most certainly don't let yourself get excited or freaked by it, because then they cart you away to a soft-walled room.

    Oh, and Cullan, please consider the irony in being bored with hearing the same story lots of times without corroboration...

    By Blogger Tumbleworld, at Tuesday, August 19, 2008  

  • But Tumbleworld,

    One would think that a UFO sighting or abduction would offset any caution about letting others know about it.

    Tha is, the event would override any inhibitions or embarrassments brought on by family members and/or friends who are callous or mean-spirited.

    And why are the Roswell witnesses so laid-back when they relate their tales?

    Many of them no longer have family or people around them who can make them feel stupid or crazy.

    It's the enervation of UFO experiencers (not just abductees) that seems odd and out-of-place.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, August 19, 2008  

  • I understand that you might think that, but believe me, it doesn't. Most people -- especially nearest and dearest, in fact, who seem to be scared of change in their beloved -- aren't embarassing or callous about this sort of thing. They just can't accept it, and if you push it, that gets passed on to you.

    Family, in my personal experience, panic. It's a rare parent, sibling or teen+ child who can cope with that sort of serious declaration. Most other people run away as quickly as possible, and then point and giggle when you're out of range.

    My experiences have certainly changed who I am, I'm not denying that -- but they most definitely haven't changed my outward demeanour. It's just too damn socially dangerous to try to evangelize this sort of thing, and society can be brutal.

    It makes sense to me that the Roswell guys, if they did indeed witness the things that are claimed, would experience an even stronger backlash, and would create even stronger defence mechanisms.

    Besides, the excitement and wonder don't change the fact that I still have to live in the real world. it doesn't make any difference when I'm at work, or cooking, or what have you -- I may have had some utterly anomalous times, but the sausages can still burn, and the boss will still yell at me if I screw up.

    People hate being preached at, anyway. I'm always happy to talk about my experiences and suspicions (try not to have beliefs, too limiting) with people who are genuinely interested, but I do make an effort to be calm and rational about it, rather than excited, particularly if there's a camera around. I open up more with people I trust and whom I know are open-minded. The rest of the time, I just smile and keep my damn trap shut -- Know, Will, Dare and Keep Silent, as the 60s Wicca Revival says.

    By Blogger Tumbleworld, at Thursday, August 21, 2008  

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