UFO Conjecture(s)

Wednesday, September 03, 2008

An Open Letter to Ufologist Kevin Randle


Mr. Randle:

You’ve proven that some Roswell witnesses lied and are still lying.

You’ve also proved that some persons interviewed about Roswell have told the truth as far as they know it.

However, witness veracity, or not, can’t resolve the Roswell controversy. Only the most rabid believers in an alien flying saucer crash and some vitriolic debunkers think that witnesses will provide the Holy Grail of truth about Roswell, either pro or con the extraterrestrial hypothesis.

Science, media, and the public generally won’t accept witness accounts as proof of anything. And they are right to eschew such accounts.

Surely you must be tired of trying to take a stand on behalf of some maligned Roswell witnesses. The rest of us UFO aficionados are.

But you have also proved that something happened at Roswell, something extraordinary.

Now comes the time to get your hands on some Roswell material that actually makes the case for or against an extraterrestrial intrusion or crash near Roswell in July 1947.

You (and others) have scoured various archives, and you’ve reported that the GAO determined the pertinent Roswell documents and military communications for the time-frame have gone missing, destroyed presumably.

But some material still exists that you (and others) haven’t found or seen as far as we can tell from your Roswell writings.

Some documents about the Roswell incident reside at the Library of Congress, in that construct’s archives.

And the Office of Naval Intelligence also has material from the 1947 episode, actual documents from the Roswell dates of the incident there.

Also the CIA has material that can be acquired by Freedom of Information requests (as you know) directed to the appropriate CIA division: Office of Military Affairs.

(What the material still extant will prove or disprove about Roswell we can’t say and won’t pursue since Roswell is a dead issue for us.)

Yes, the alleged UFO crash at Roswell has been seemingly dredged to the bottom of the pond, to no avail – none whatsoever.

It’s time to get some real proof, which has eluded you (and others), or close the Roswell casket.

Being mired in Roswell’s obfuscated detritus is not a mentally healthy endeavor.

Produce something concrete, or move on….to UFO incidents with a high probability of denouement.


  • I think if you look to history and study the psychological operation and premise of the Nazi intelligence services toward the creation of a illusionary "last redoubt" toward the end of the war as a misdirection of attention...it succeeded...Patton was diverted up into the mountains of Bavaria...In other words you pretend to have something that you dont have...which reinforces to your managed "assets" that you are in control of this situation. Its an old trick. The pretense or impression of secrecy fosters a false critical assumption that conceals the fact you are vulnerable.
    This strategy buys time.
    So your extension of time to actually deal with the situation covertly is enhanced while your opposition digs for a illusionary depository of information...you plant little markers here and there... like a popcorn trail that leads to a blind alley. If you superimpose this theory on the situation, some events have more clarity as well as who has been duped, who is fostering this, as well as why it is occurring.
    The Allies used this same principle of counter intelligence by creating a illusionary armada of inflatable tanks and cardboard airplanes that were intended to be seen by German observation flights over England.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Wednesday, September 03, 2008  

  • So, Bruce, does this mean that the military or a sub rosa group in government or maybe the aliens themselves are setting the false markers?

    To what end?


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, September 03, 2008  

  • Bear in mind this is a speculation on a speculation. Take it for what its worth which in my own opinion is not worth much. The fact we are still kicking a dead horse is an apt example of the effectiveness of a strategy employed as a counter intelligence game of misdirected attention. It's buried in plain sight. in other words, the way the game is played is that the game's rules are allowed by a set of legalisms that will not allow us to determine what is funding is what with our taxes, specifically when it comes to "secret budgets" The short answer is I don't know... but I do know I "don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." Roswell is a black hole in astronomical terms. It's a intelligence game arising from God knows where in the self interests of national security. Call in the usual suspects. Please, no alien fantasies.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Wednesday, September 03, 2008  

  • Of course, Bruce, you have it right, as usual.

    But it does reek of madness, does it not?


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, September 03, 2008  

  • It is a sort of highly organized madness whose nexus is an imagined or postulated threat to the management of the assets that such governmental entities take by writ to be a form of ownership akin to a the managerial practices of real estate firm. The governments business is assets in relation to the perpetuation of it's organization. What is mad, is that this phenomenon neatly does an end run around their assets and targets their weakest link, consciousness itself. So we have all these games being played to gear steer and drive consensus or more accurately to divide and conquer with many ruses and pit holes that most willingly enter by their own volition. Which is more mad by degree?

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Wednesday, September 03, 2008  

  • It reminds me of "The Persecution and Assassination of Jean-Paul Marat as Performed by the Inmates of the Asylum of Charenton Under the Direction of the Marquis de Sade."


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, September 03, 2008  

  • I could not have made a better comparison.The madness is such that we waste so much energy in a game when we cant tell the assets from the

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Wednesday, September 03, 2008  

  • Bruce,

    You cover what we call The Game of God so brilliantly at your blog -- Intangible Materiality -- that we are posting a paean to your work (and blog) at our RRRGroup blog.

    We suggest there, and here, that persons, who want a clue to what reality really is, visit you blog for a mentally stimulating adventure, that is actually transcendental.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, September 03, 2008  

  • Thanks for the kind words..as a game.it certainly is interactive

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Wednesday, September 03, 2008  

  • Roswell is not dead and the idea that you don't care about it is nonsense. Every chance you get you slam it. So don't pretend to take that position. If ETs died at that location how can it be dead.

    Dead ETs destroy the idea that UFOs are metaphysical which is part and parcel of a large group of UFO researcher. So they want it to go away also.
    I don't give a dam about you or your position or Kevin Randle for that matter. I give a dam about the witnesses some of who felt it was important to tell families before they died. So it was not dead for them. All of you can debate back and forth till doomsday for I care when someone is on near death it trumps all you 60+ quarterbacks.
    . I will continue stand up for those people who really keep the question open.. the flesh and blood witnesses to this presence on earth.

    Joseph Capp
    UFO Media Matters

    By Blogger Joseph Capp, at Friday, September 05, 2008  

  • Joseph,

    Your obsession with the Roswell witnesses is a bit much, admirable on one hand, and neurotic on the other.

    The witnesses don't need verification. The evidence does, and your witnesses haven't provided any -- not any that is substantial.

    You are a loyal friend to the dead and dying who have something to say about the Roswell incident.

    But you'd do better to get that evidence for the stories they've told over the years.

    And we've pointed you to some sources.

    (Further, if the "witnesses" to the death and Resurrection of Jesus/Christ are discounted, how can you expect the Roswell witnesses not to be?)


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, September 05, 2008  

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