UFO Conjecture(s)

Friday, February 20, 2009

UFOs and the Death of God


While Nietzsche intuited the death of God and Richard Elliott Friedman deals euphemistically with that death (The Hidden Face of God, HarperCollins, 1995), sensible persons know that God died shortly after His Ezekiel visitation [590 BC].


(The alleged appearances in the New Testament are allegorical and Jesus is a tangible metaphor.)

Thus, UFOs have come to replace God in the psyche of many ufologists.

Some in the UFO community replace God with UFOs for psychological reasons, others for academic reasons, and still others because they have a lacuna in their souls.

Stanton Friedman, for instance, needs UFOs as God because he knows that God abandoned his people many times over the millennia, and more horrendously during the Holocaust. So UFOs have become a surrogate for Mr. Friedman.


Richard Hall needs UFOs to be God because he knows that God was absent during the American Civil War and most certainly is dead. So Mr. Hall, who is closer to death than life, needs to fill a void that the absence of God creates for those near to the afterlife.


Jerome Clark, in his study of early Christianity, knows that God is a thought, not a reality, so he keeps UFOs on his cognitive burners as a kind of replacement for a theological concept that intrigues him but is lacking in many ways.


Bruce Maccabee is agnostic about UFOs one day and a believer on another day, just as variable as his belief in God is. UFOs come and go in his mind, just as God does. Mr. Maccabee knows, however, that God is dead, and UFOs are nearly so.


There are many deranged people in the UFO community, named at our UFO web-site, who need God, but in that absence, have created a belief system based upon the UFO phenomenon.

These people can’t come to grips with the death of God, so they’ve made UFOs into God, to assuage their “spiritual” debilitation.


Peripheral UFO aficionado Joseph Capp recognizes, almost unconsciously, that young people have no yen for a God, knowing that God is irrelevant, which is as good as dead in their minds, and some see UFOs as an interesting, real replacement.

Sci-Fi writer and über-geek Mac Tonnies runs intellectual circles around the concept of God, whom he knows is dead, and does the same with UFOs.


UFOs and God are amorphous concepts that Mr. Tonnies plays with, because life is plaything, and God and UFOs are toys for his fecund mind.

Abductees (so-called experiencers) are so distraught by the unconscious or pre-conscious recognition that God is, indeed, dead, they’ve taken to hallucinating about being taken to Him by His “messengers” who visit them at night or during daytime catnaps.


The motivation for their alternate reality is a need to replace the dead God with a still extant God, who resides in other-worldly spheres (UFOs and other realities) just as Elias and Ezekiel did, maybe even as Jesus/Christ did.

UFOs for the Greg Bishops, Nick Redferns, Paul Kimballs. Bruce Duensings, Linda Moulton Howes, and other intellectual types are a coolish replacement for he idea of God, whom they know is long dead, and ineffective as a player in the game of life.


UFOs have the attributes of God – the long ago chronicled attributes before He died: mysterious, uncommunicative, able to perform feats that mere mortals can’t, and ubiquitous.

So while God is dead for cognoscenti, UFOs have come to replace Him (or It), but as we contend, one shouldn’t get too attached to the UFOs as God concept, since UFOs are themselves dying even as this is being typed.

And some in the UFO community (Cullan Hudson for one) knows this, and take comfort in an existentiality that is really real.


  • I'm presuming much of this is tongue-in-cheek.

    No I don't think God is dead. After all, how can something (or someone) that never existed in the first place die?

    It, or he, or she can't!

    We are flesh and blood, bones, DNA etc. We are born, we live we die, and then it's lights out.

    If you (as I do) can accept that, and realize that life is to be lived for the moment (because one day it will all be over and there will be nothing more - ever), then there's no need for a replacement to God: you just live it and enjoy it while you have it, and don't worry about analyzing it.

    For me UFOs are an interest - that's it.

    Not something I ponder on night after night, staring at the stars yearning for meaning.

    It's an interest. That's it.

    No need to look for anything deeper than that - at least, not from my own interest in Ufology.

    Would be interesting to see what the others you reference think of the picture painted of them.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Friday, February 20, 2009  

  • Nick:

    Tongue in cheek? Us??


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, February 20, 2009  

  • Id be interested to see Friedman's take on his inclusion.

    By Blogger Gareth, at Friday, February 20, 2009  

  • Gareth:

    So would we.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, February 20, 2009  

  • qui have this expression tongue in cheek in mi language. didnt know you are so advance d
    ufos are not Usual interest?
    its not that. im sure mr redfern or others here has unordinary experiences..

    this freedman was how old in 1947? he spoke in congress 1968..

    By Blogger dudivie, at Saturday, February 21, 2009  

  • D:

    Mr. Friedman was about 19 or 20 in 1947 we think.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, February 21, 2009  

  • Funny, I thought God died in 1966 when Time Magazine ran on cover story about his demise.

    By Blogger purrlgurrl, at Saturday, February 21, 2009  

  • PG:

    Time's article pertained to that other God -- you know, the one that pretended to be God...


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, February 21, 2009  

  • I concur with Nick - UFOs are just an interest of ours, not the be-all and end-all of our existence (although I do agree that there are a few people for whom UFOs are all consuming). As a hopeful agnostic, I take a more nuanced view to the prospect of something beyond this mortal coil than perhaps he does, but as with UFOs I don't spend much time thinking about it. Why worry about what comes after this life when you should be focused on making the most out of your time here? The rest will take care of itself, no matter what we do. :-)


    By Blogger Paul Kimball, at Sunday, February 22, 2009  

  • Well, PK:

    I guess that concentrating on the "here-and-now" makes practical sense, but what if, as I assume Mac Tonnies believes, that this life is a rehearsal for the next life?

    As a playwright, you understand the concept.

    You, Nick, Greg Bishop (maybe), and a few others put UFOs in their proper perspective.

    But those we've named here have replaced their (dead) God with the UFO phenomenon in some respects, and that's intellectually sad.

    As an aside, spurred by Nick's comments....there is or was a God, or there has never been a God. You take the "agnostic but perhaps there's more view," as do I. Nick doesn't. So his "Eat, drink, and be merry" approach is understandable. What I'm wondering, is when you, Paul, might assume the St. Augustine or Franz Liszt philosophy: ribaldry now, virtue later? (I kid, sorta.)


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, February 22, 2009  

  • Rich,

    One can combine ribaldry with virtue, you know!

    And what if the last life was a rehearsal for this one, and we're all at the end of the line? ;-)


    By Blogger Paul Kimball, at Sunday, February 22, 2009  

  • Or, Paul...

    What if we're in that Hindu cycle, and this life is just one among many, which are all rehearsals for the (final) Hindu "paradise" -- to know God?

    (Forget about Nirvana -- That's for Nick I believe.)


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, February 22, 2009  

  • niettzsche has that cycle too. its called hm forevercoming back heh. i donno in english anyway. in action we know the future often

    UFOs are just an interest of ours, not the be-all and end-all of our existence, how can yu prove that

    By Blogger ninni, at Thursday, February 26, 2009  

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