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Friday, August 20, 2010

UFO UpDates still stinks!


A few years ago, I was a UFO UpDate habitué, but came to rue the time spent visiting the archaically formatted web-site.

The host of UFO UpDates is a codger: Errol Bruce-Knapp. His site is a codger-site, where UFO geezers congregate and ruminate endlessly and nastily about UFOs, (mostly) past and present.


Also a few years ago, Bruce-Knapp established UpDates as a fee-oriented site. Apparently that effort has proved fruitless as the site is once again free for visitors.

Visitor input is set in a circa 1984 computer format that Facebook and Twitter users would find, as I do, infuriating and off-putting in the extreme.

But the main problem with UpDates is that, by catering to geezers, the content is overwhelmingly curmudgeonly; visitors back-stab and try to one-up each other, and eschew anything approaching diplomatic dialogue.


This includes UFO “celebs” such as Stanton Friedman and Jerry Clark.


Friedman is always defending himself against barbs from critics of his UFO work.


Clark damns and corrects content, while never or rarely addressing UFO sightings per se, even those he has championed in years past when he was a UFO researcher of note.

Clark has become the old-lady celebrity in a rocker at a nursing home for has-beens.


The other UpDate regulars are either sycophants (kissing the asses of the UFO celebs) or UFO skanks – persons with no real UFO acumen who want to be in the presence of the UFO old-timers who still have cachet among deluded UFO aficionados.


Yet, UpDates does provide an occasional nugget of UFO gold, and does spur lively, albeit often retrograde, information that UFO newbies might find interesting.

If Bruce-Knapp would bring UpDates into the 21st century, his site might be worth a visit from new, fresh UFO mavens.

But as it is, UpDates is an island populated by the dead or dying of ufology, and it has the smell of decay all over it.



  • Jerry Clark "has become an old lady celebrity in a rocker at a nursing home for has-beens".

    And what is Stan Friedman? Kevin Randle? And so on.

    What you mean is that we need some new, young, virile (?) ufologists, with fresh ideas, and fit for the 21st century, fit to take on the old geezers (or is it old fogies?).

    Then ufology will, at last, get somewhere! I'll say no more.

    By Blogger cda, at Friday, August 20, 2010  

  • Christopher:

    You understand exactly what I mean, although it's the young of mind, not necessarily the young of age that I'm hoping will take a look at the UFO phenomenon.

    The UFO "conversation" is still being controlled by a mouldering crew of old-timers who are cemented to the past, in a way that is not productive.

    I picked on Clark because, at UpDates, he continues to condescend as if he's the summa bonum of ufology. (He isn't.)

    And I like the guy, but his day has passed, as it has for Friedman, Randle, Ledger, and a host of others who show up at UpDates regularly to still appear relevant.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, August 20, 2010  

  • OFO Updates is free again? (cue Monty python cartoon flag wavers) "yay."

    Frankly, didn't even notice and don't care. A bunch of old farts ruminating about blinky lights in the sky has not bearing on anything and hold no interest.

    By Blogger oddemperor, at Sunday, August 22, 2010  

  • O.E....

    As usual, we're on the same page.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, August 22, 2010  

  • And Alfred,

    You can quit begging to have your comments listed here.

    Telling us how much you respect our postings and that you want to be friends, will not give you access to comments.

    Your turgid, perverse grammar precludes you from getting any time or space at this blog or any others of ours.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, August 22, 2010  

  • I forgot about that site some time ago as I would go there from time to time out of idle curiosity, and then when a fee was charged, I thought it was like one of those Victorian Gentlemen's Clubs, you know, standing around a predominately male group of fellows smoking cigars in jackets, drinking brandy.."you know Colonel, I knew you would say that." It was just o.k in short doses, I wasn't repulsed but I wasn't attracted either. I thought it was shut down.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Tuesday, August 24, 2010  

  • Bruce,

    Even though we are excoriating Bruce-Knapp's old-time(r) site, one can sometimes find a bit of UFO news or information that is useful or enlghtening.

    But one has to sidestep all the fake bonhommie and often castigating, condescending remarks from the UFO has-beens, trying to hang on to their long-gone cachet.

    The site is, as you note, not a "have-to-visit" site as it once was.

    It's glory days are well over...


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, August 24, 2010  

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