UFO Conjectures

Monday, January 24, 2011

That Mysterious (Memory Metal) Nitinol

Here is an abstract that tells how Nitinol evolved, mostly as an adjunct to medical procedures.

The abstract contains the background (and a photograph) of Tony Bragalia's "mysterious" Dr. Wang, with the Battelle connection.

(Nitinol is used in medicine primarily, not as a alloy for aircraft.)

Click here for the PDF abstract


  • A good write-up. I did not read all of it, but there it is, in a recognised journal of chemistry.

    I looked in vain for any mention of Roswell, flying discs or such, either in the main text or the list of 53 references at the end.

    Tha main applications of Nitinol are, as you say, in dentistry and medicine.

    Presumably Tony Bragalia has an answer as to why there is no mention of his beloved UFO case. So let us hear about it, please.

    Or is it all, as usual, hushed up and therefore cannot be published in a respectable journal?

    By Blogger cda, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • CDA:

    Nitinol is interesting...if you're a dentist or a doctor.

    How it received its lofty status in the UFO discussion, mostly with the Roswell tale, baffles me.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • Gentlemen please do your homework. I am surprised at both of you.

    Number one, I do not make the claim that Nitinol is itself the Roswell material. It was some form of shape memory alloy. Nitinol represents our best attempts at replication.

    Number two, Nitinol and SMA's find huge current and potential application in aerospace!!!

    Simply Google, in quotes:

    "US Military is Using Smart Metals"
    for a remarkable detailing on NASA's use of such material.

    "Anna McGowan" NASA
    She is the Program Manager for the NASA's Morphing Metal Project

    "Thermal Characteristics of a Nitinol Heat Engine"
    to see a US Navy (!) report on NiTi and propulsion

    "NASA Morphing Metal" and go to the dailymotion video I have pointed out before.

    Lastly, Google (without quotes):
    Boeing Nitinol
    (they are using it for aerospace composite materials, exploring if for as an active control mechanism, etc.)

    After doing so, come back to me and tell me that "morphing metal" "shape memory alloys" and Nitinol have no real application in aerospace...


    By Blogger Anthony, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • Anthony:

    Nitinol is one of those niggling things that has allowed you to find Battelle and other research groups fooling around with memory metal, which may have been what the alleged Roswell disk(s) had as their construct basis.

    But Nitinol itself is a peripheral element, useful for medical purposes but never inexpensive enough or practical enough for use as an aircraft overlay.

    That scientists broached by you have flinched when Roswell is mentioned is intriguing, but CDA offers some possible reasons why.

    That some Roswell debris was allegedly sent to Battelle, Sandia, Berkeley, the Navy labs, et cetera, seems to be confirmed by your research.

    But Nitinol is just a by-product of that possibility, not the "ecce signum."


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • Lets say its a given that Nickel Titanium Naval Ordinance Laboratory material, itself, is NOT extra-terrestrial in nature.

    The way NITINOL has been handled is, nonetheless, a perfect illustration of an exotic item, or system, being introduced over time. This is handy when comparing with other information, such as that which was produced by Colonel Coroso.

    It takes time to find out how to use it, let alone how to replicate/manufacture it.

    It would be the same for any part of any uniquely exotic system, including one from an possibly extra-terrstrial source.

    By Blogger Bob Koford, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • Bob:

    The paper linked here, in this post, and one in the previous post go at how Nitinol was discovered and evolved.

    The methodology is, as you note, interesting, and does go to how, perhaps, exotic materials are vetted, whether they are native to the Earth or come from outer space.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • "That some Roswell debris was allegedly sent to Battelle, Sandia, Berkeley, the Navy labs, et cetera, seems to be confirmed by your research."

    You did say 'alleged' and 'seems to be'. But don't you think, if such material really had been sent to Battelle, Sandia etc. for analysis, that somewhere there would exist a report entitled like: "The analysis of metal retrieved from a 'flying disc' crash in New Mexico in 1947" - by Dr. X and Dr. Y, and issued under the imprint of one (at least) of these laboratories?

    So I ask: where is that report? Has it been kept under wraps? There must be something in writing about this recovered metal. If there is not, it indicates the said metal was quite ordinary and not worth examination, nor writing a report about.

    That is my take on the matter.

    By Blogger cda, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • Christopher,

    I think Anthony Bragalia has access to (or actual) reports that indicate that Battelle was studying what the scientists there were led to believe was fragments from a crash in the vicinity of Roswell in 1947.

    But that's for him to present at a time propitious for him.

    But from what I can ascertain from what he's shared, we should be loath to dismiss the possibility that Battelle (and other such places) was studying what they thought was extraterrestrial metal.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • CDA-

    This is the central problem:

    You insist on access to official documents that clearly indicate ET debris (or specimens.)

    Such documents will never find there way into the public domain, no more than the all of the needed engineering documents that are held by the US Government to create a nuclear bomb...

    Get it?

    So our work must often be done by technical inference, credible testimony, paper trails and potential connections.

    BTW, you have still not admited to your error on SMAs and Aerospace...


    By Blogger Anthony, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • Uh, haven't the nuclear engineering documents appeared in the public domain?


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • I said "all of the needed engineering documents" to make a nuclear bomb.

    Of course they are not all in the public domain -why do you think that Iran and other rogue nations are still looking for the complete "formula" even after decades?

    My point is that such "state secrets" and detailed designs are things that governments kill to keep secret. Literally.


    By Blogger Anthony, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • Addendum:

    Rich is correct that there are more documents coming that are even more telling that the ones I have previously released.

    But not to get hopes up- they do not explicitly mention ET, however what they do indicate brings us even closer to ultimate confirmation...


    By Blogger Anthony, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • Of course Anthony, secret material is hard to come by, impossible almost.

    Although the Rosenbergs didn't have any trouble getting their hands on the bomb papers, passing them on to the Soviets, for which they were executed.

    Anyway, there are ingenious ways to put together a raft of circumstantial details which hint at or expose secret stuff, and I'm guessing your research, Tony, will do just that, eventually.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • AJB will always be able to find suggestive papers from research scientists here and there that point in some roundabout fashion to pssible links with a metal associated with nitinol.

    From this he will be able to demonstrate a (very) slight possible connection with a memory metal and thus with what was supposedly recovered at Roswell.

    What I want is an official or learned paper by a qualified metallurgist/scientist that talks about a direct link between Nitinol (or another metal) and the stuff recovered from Roswell.

    And I do NOT want an excuse that such papers, after 63 years, are still under wraps.

    Come off it Tony. You'll never find such papers, for a very simple straightforward reason. There aint any. There never were, period. And there will be no 'ultimate confirmation'.

    So no, I don't 'get it'.

    By Blogger cda, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • "You'll never find such papers, for a very simple straightforward reason. There aint any. There never were, period."

    Even broken clocks are right twice a day. The government would never have put "we're reverse engineering debris from an alien spacecraft" into writing and don't tell me "the government puts everything in writing," because they don't.

    By Blogger Frank Stalter, at Monday, January 24, 2011  

  • Down the path of material and linear causation as a forward motion that may be taking Ufology backwards. Just to insert there may be alternative dynamics to the whole shebang. Care for some PSI?


    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Tuesday, January 25, 2011  

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