UFO Conjectures

Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Roswell will not die!

Despite our best efforts to kill or put Roswell on a back-burner, the incident continues to rear its ufological head.

The new Jacobsen book, Area 51, revives the UFO monster and Nick Redfern addresses the incident at UFO Mystic and in other postings, which you can read by clicking HERE and HERE.

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  • Roswell rather reminds me of a mother of a cockroach I flattened a few days ago (Texas is ripe with the pesky things!). It was huge, it refused to die at first, but several good whacks with a rolled-up copy of US Weekly finally worked. One day, so Roswell will ultimately be dispatched to the rubbish bin also. Hopefully, after we get the answers - but I'm not holding my breath...

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Tuesday, May 17, 2011  

  • Will it ever end? Aaargh....

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, May 17, 2011  

  • Why should it end? There is an ex-USAF airman aged 101 in a hospice over here, who is a first-hand witness to those earth-shaking events of long ago, but was oficially silenced. I understand he is to make a deathbed confession, to ease his conscience. Several news reporters are now on stand-by. Watch this space.

    By Blogger cda, at Wednesday, May 18, 2011  

  • CDA:

    I think everyday is April First for you.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, May 18, 2011  

  • Horton and jet propulsion were known before the formal end of the war, (ME262) and the U.S rushed to capture the remaining technology, some of which were recently tested by The Skunk Works that showed they were well on the way to stealth technology that was never fully exploited. So the story line is that we could not recognize a technology we were already well aware of and\or bury that fact that the USSR violated U.S airspace? An unprecedented propaganda opportunity bypassed? There are so many holes in this it is absurd, a flying wing was under development by us, that while sometime later it was a technical failure due to instability issued it became operational some fifty years later with the advent of computerized flight controls. Yawn.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Wednesday, May 18, 2011  

  • Greetings,

    I'm in adequation with Bruce. It was more or less the same sorts of "ruminations" I modestly have had yesterday when discovering this new Roswell theory made by Jacobsen and reading dear Nick blog'articles about.

    Among several "red flags" already presented by Bruce or we could have by common sens, I think soviets were well aware that USA is not a stupid country. I mean that, for example:

    Horten or not, 1947 US Army Intelligence Services - like ATIC - would be easily abble to recognize an "hand made aircraft".
    Same concerning 1947 US forencic pathologists: Progeria or what you want as human malformations, they will identify them as they are (human) and easily too.

    In other words, I have a big problem to see or imagine soviets devoting time and resources to such a so childish psychological warfare operation -sic-, which would have poor results cause the "prank" or hoax fastly discovered. Soviets cant ignore this. This theory have no sens for me and with all courtesy.

    By Blogger Gilles, at Wednesday, May 18, 2011  

  • PS: typo error. By "like ATIC", it was "like ATI" in my mind : Air Technical Intelligence services of USAAF or USAF.
    I wanted to point the existing and several Air Materiel Command services devoted for "crash intelligence" regarding captured or crashed german, japanese and italian equipments ie.
    The "Lusty" and "Peperclip" Operations gathered the german aircraft technologies to such services, like Me262 or Horten, as Bruce pointed.

    By Blogger Gilles, at Wednesday, May 18, 2011  

  • Asking why it will never end in a public post about it is pretty amusing. It's kind of like the teenage girl wondering why a certain rumour continues to be spread at school as she tells people about the rumour.

    It ends when people stop talking about it. Pure and simple.


    By Blogger Paul Kimball, at Wednesday, May 18, 2011  

  • Gilles,
    What does not astonish me is that none of this was researched as you noted, as an important if not essential portion of the credibility of this tale. The fact that the USSR knew that we knew of Horton as they did makes this latest conflabulation outrageous, and irresponsible, whatever the motive. One step forward and fifteen back for scientific exploration, versus simply overpriced sensationalism masked as a revelation. I am choking on this serving of cheap excrement.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Wednesday, May 18, 2011  

  • Ah, Paul, buddy o' mine....

    Roswell -- the essential story -- isn't alluded to in the post.

    Referencing Roswell by title isn't the same as providing scads of material from or about it.

    The nuances of essence vs the nominal continue to elude you ,as happened in the discussion of skepticism vs belief.

    Pointing to an object is not the same as providing an elaborate description of the object.

    This is what muddles the UFO topic, and other subjects here and yon: the linguistic confusion of things in the posting hopper.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, May 18, 2011  

  • No linguistic confusion, Rich. You want keep blogging about Roswell, great - go for it. But by doing so, and keeping the meme alive, you contribute to what you decry.

    Bon voyage!


    By Blogger Paul Kimball, at Wednesday, May 18, 2011  

  • Paul,

    Again, you miss the important detail -- I do not blog about Roswell, but some of my cronies do, and I give them leeway to do so.

    This includes Bragalia, our mutual buddy Redfern, and others.

    Roswell, for me, personally, is a dead end pretty much.

    Now, Socorro -- that's another matter...


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, May 18, 2011  

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