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Thursday, July 28, 2011

The Roswell Addiction

We see that Kevin Randle spices up his blog by posting regular Roswell tainted posts.

Roswell is a “drug” -- and he’s one of its dealers.

Some present and former visitors to this blog go to Randle’s blog for their Roswell fix.

One can find CDA there, Sourcerer (Don), and the heavily-dosed David Rudiak, among others, immersed in the drug-induced fog that has become Roswell.

Stupifyingly redundant comments are grist of the blog, and nothing of value ensues, ever.

When we provide a post about Roswell, usually from researcher Anthony Bragalia, it, at least, has something new appended to it…something unknown and pertinent.

Randle just likes to fill his blog with a raft of comments, and he doesn’t care if they have an intelligent value or not.

He just likes filler, and Roswell always provides it.

Roswell is intriguing, but well-mined by UFO hobbyists. Yet, some find the incident necessary for their online existence; they need it to feel alive, and intellectual by regurgitating old Roswell detritus, over and over, again.

It’s embarrassing….that is, the “addiction” makes the rest of us who are fascinated by the UFO mystery look as if we are part and parcel of the “addicted” Roswellians, even as we try to distance ourselves from Roswell, just to get on with trying to explain the extant UFO enigma, the phenomenon itself, not the myth and corrupted event that attracts some like moths to flames, when they should know better.


  • You are right - it is a drug.
    So we ought to go into rehab somewhere, but where?

    Have you also noticed the subtle topic diversions and changes?

    If Kevin introduces apples we soon seem to get onto oranges and even bananas. Perhaps it is that last word that counts.

    By Blogger cda, at Thursday, July 28, 2011  

  • Yah, CDA, we all need rehab.

    I'm just as addicted, and chided by people like Paul Kimball for being so.

    The topic, at Randle's (like here) always gets off on tangents.

    But as our friend Gilles says, that's ufology.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, July 28, 2011  

  • Beyond anything else, Roswell is boring, probably because the prose that has been written about it over the years re-defines turgid (has anyone ever really made it all the way through The Roswell Incident without wincing), and the films and TV shows made about it have never risen above mediocre B-movie type of material.

    By Blogger Paul Kimball, at Thursday, July 28, 2011  

  • On one hand you have a sort of theology lurking behind Roswell, that the miraculous requires materiality, witnesses, mathematical proofs, evidence that we can have the incommensurable on our own terms, that it is delivered on a forensic silver platter that the evil nameless government hydra absconded with. A political rather than scientific metaphor.
    This Roswell is loaded with so much baggage with this theology in mind it is with a certain sardonic smirk in mind that this naive faith in conspiracy theory causes some to walk into a blind alley only to act like bumper cars against each others vague postulates like subatomic particles.
    It is a heat sink for empirical mixed metaphors, a political horse that is a carcass.
    Another whirlygig that eats the intelligent usage of limited time, a joke without a punchline.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Thursday, July 28, 2011  

  • Paul and Bruce:

    Roswell is like George R.R. Martin's "Song of Ice and Fire," which I, ahem, did a review of at our blog, The Explicator:


    His saga, like Roswell, is into its fifth book, each of them about 1000 pages.

    His book isn't boring (Paul) but it is so convoluted and full of unfulfilled happenings and supposed mythological-like events that one gets lost in the convolution(s).

    Roswell is like an extended joke, with no punch-line, as you indicate Bruce.

    Martin's epic, like Roswell, seems to be without end.

    (He's promised a sixth book, The Winds of Winter -- this after I've bought and read five so far. With no end in sight, and a story that has lost all sense and meaning, I have to say I, and his legion of fans, are incongruously addicted. much like the Roswell obsessives.)


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, July 28, 2011  

  • Roswell = bored to death with endless embellishments of the same unfounded claims made over and over again (apologies to Uncle Stan, but I wish he'd kept his pie hole shut back in the day).

    Roswell isn't a drug; it's a cult riddled with dogma and "true believers". Those who don't buy it are heretics and treated as such by the followers.

    Roswell has ceased having any relevance to a persistant phenomenon that some evidence indicates may very well have an explanation on the far reaches of physics or the as yet uncharted functioning of the human brain.

    But, hey. the Roswell cult keeps selling books to its followers and new converts as well as getting speaking gigs for its high priests, so Ufology is stuck with this dead-end subculture for a long time to come.

    By Blogger purrlgurrl, at Friday, July 29, 2011  

  • We hear ya, PG....loud and clear.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, July 29, 2011  

  • In all seriousness, there was a time when Roswell was something significant. In the 1980s and into the early 1990s, it had a broad cultural footprint, through TV shows, movies, books and other media. But I think most people soon came to see inherent silliness in the story, and moved on - the rapid dissemination of information brought about by the Internet exposed the mythmakers and storytellers in a way never seen before. Sure, it garnered them a small core audience of committed followers, but it restricted sustained growth because it allowed people to quickly see all the elements of the story, and not rely solely on the storytellers, and their control (and filtering) of the information. 9/11 certainly changed the climate, but I think those changes had already begun in the aftermath of the USAF's report (Project Mogul, which I accept), and then the 50th anniversary, which had the effect of being a denouement of sorts.

    What's left is a modern myth that has a small core of adherents, and a slightly larger group of people who are generally interested in it, but the rapidity with which the Roswell "empire" has collapsed within popular culture is a sign of just how flimsy the whole narrative was in the first place. Those who expect it to someday take its place alongside the great mysteries like King Arthur are going to be sadly disappointed.


    By Blogger Paul Kimball, at Friday, July 29, 2011  

  • And Paul, I'm amazed that normal, usually sensible people continue to argue some very minor, irrelevant points, such as, currently being chewed over at Randle's blog; i.e. the LaPaz colored sand or ground that was, peripherally mentioned a few times in the ongoing swag of stuff that beclouds the Roswell event.

    A lot of time and energy is expended by old men, whose lives are short and being wasted on things that have little or nothing to do with the core Roswell story or anything else that matters in this existence.

    Sheer folly....


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, July 29, 2011  

  • Well, not everyone can spend all their time discussing the works of Kierkegaard and Schopenhauer, I suppose. ;-)

    By Blogger Paul Kimball, at Friday, July 29, 2011  

  • Paul:

    Sure they can.

    Discussing LaPaz and his alleged scrutiny of a Roswell crash is a total forfeiture of one's intelligence.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, July 29, 2011  

  • No argument from me... we would all be better off if we spent a little more time reading the great philosophers. Heck, even Plato... ;-)

    By Blogger Paul Kimball, at Friday, July 29, 2011  

  • I tend to agree on this (about LaPaz). He was only introduced into Roswell by two researchers, after they interviewed supposed the Roswell witness Bill Rickett.

    Naturally once someone enters the arena and you accept the testimony, it becomes very difficult to kick him out of the arena, particularly if events are many decades old. Hence LaPaz is now associated with Roswell forever. And the complete lack of documentation on it means nothing to believers, as it is all still top secret. Got it?

    With apologies for this intrusion. I get as bored with it as anyone else - but sometimes you DO have to present the opposite view.

    Time for a spell in rehab - any good clinics out your way?

    By Blogger cda, at Saturday, July 30, 2011  

  • Paul...especially Plato!


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, July 30, 2011  

  • CDA:

    You are our primary corrective source re: Roswell.

    One needs to tamp down or destroy the nonsense, but the effort is Sisyphian.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, July 30, 2011  

  • "One needs to tamp down or destroy the nonsense, but the effort is Sisyphian."

    That effort to tamp down the superfluous might be considered an addiction as well.

    From what I can see, the Roswell whirlygig has long since passed into the realm of human myth and like all narrative stories that attempt to domesticate what we do not know by inserting an invented structure, therein it contains a vague kernel of truth, an enigma which in turn leads to a proverbial tournament of ping pong games with players on either side seemingly unaware that they are lacking a ball. I said a long time ago, that all this is a heat sink for applying empirical certainty to a incommensurable topic which leads to somber buffoonery. Pin the tail on the stubborn donkey is an image that comes to mind.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Sunday, July 31, 2011  

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