UFO Conjecture(s)

Saturday, August 13, 2011

UFOs and the Death of God [Redux]


Reading through Wonders in the Sky by Jacques Vallee and Chris Aubeck [Penguin Group, NY, 2009] one is struck how most of those sightings from antiquity through the Middle Ages up to the beginning of the 20th Century have a direct or tangential connection to persons or enterprises that have a religious patina.


As aficionados of UFOs know, modern sightings, mainly from 1945 on, are secular in nature; that is, UFOs or flying saucers were not attendant or dependent upon a religious overlay.

Why is that?

I conjecture that UFOs had an umbilical connection to those events and people who believed in God and practiced the Faith, no matter if what the denomination or premise what was: Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Pagan, Mayan, Christianity, et alii.

But after the Death of God – and I believe that God died, not metaphorically as Nietzsche proposed, but actually – UFOs became attracted to humankind as a symbolic phenomenon, with meaning that has yet to be discerned.

UFOs and God is Dead -- 2009

Carl Jung’s magnificently clear rumination on the nature and reality of God in Answer to Job outlines how God, in a fit of divine despair, about how humans had been treated by Him and the vicissitudes of His creation, became incarnate, as Jesus Christ to atone for His (God’s) misbehavior, and ultimately die as a personal -- shall I say suicidal? – retribution to assuage the divine guilt.


However, that atonement, by partial Deicide, was short lived, and God’s aloof, distant, or hidden nature [See Richard Friedman’s The Hidden Face of God] brought about, in modern times, one of the most horrific episodes against humanity, and a chosen element of that humanity: The Holocaust.


In that human catastrophe and its aftermath, God died -- He either did Himself in (a total act of Decide) or died of a divine heartbreak; either way, God Himself – not his surrogate (Son) but God Himself died in h mid-1940s A.D.

Thus UFOs, whatever they were or are were transmogrified by the Divine denouement, but destined to intervene in human affairs by an eternal mandate of God, had to continue the “mission” and secular sightings became the norm, and the religious connection was set aside or lost from that point on.

This doesn’t explain, admittedly, what UFOs are, their essential makeup, nor their purpose. But it may explain by Vallee’s and Aubeck’s litany of ancient UFO sightings have been replaced by a litany of secular UFO sightings.


To augment my bizarre thesis, I suggest readers here check out an article in the current New Yorker: Is That All There Is? by James Woods, about Secularism [August 15/22 issue, Page 87 ff.]




  • These critical assumptions parallels the human dynamic of defining the incommensurable as a conceptual and monarchical supposition, from the top down rather than the bottom up, which at the level of the empirical, makes the non conceptual, a conceptual narrative, limiting the delimited by bias projections. Ufology as it is currently largely constituted is the secularism of the rational attempting to superimpose a narrative mythology which the phenomenon demonstrably resists as it has no human aim, no desire or design which merits our participation other than to challenge us in terms of all of the above by our observation of it.. If God is dead, then what was God? Define what was lost.

    Nothing saved us from ourselves and our responsibility to acknowledge what we privately know and then we publicly become coy about, that most of us are killing time itself because we cannot believe what we cannot see, and so we have been shown demonstratively, perhaps what we cannot know, there is a reserve of mystery left greater than all of our past and future knowledge up there like a signet on a wax seal.

    Ufology is the subversive theism of the non-conceptual that challenges by not even one degree of separation, our lack of wonder on as many levels as you care to count.
    Angels and secular extraterrestrials, spacetime and eternity, I dare ask what has changed? Nothing except the loss of hope in ourselves, a loss of innocence we feel as emptiness, a joy untainted by .compromising the fact that we acknowledge not deny this in of itself meaning life is a living, most.sacred miracle

    Should this God pathologically control us to save us from our animal nature as we have attempted with the natural world and one another? . To create the sun on the surface of this earth to destroy life? To stereotype the Jewish community as we have this God?


    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Saturday, August 13, 2011  

  • Bruce:

    You might use my link, in the post, to James Wood's insightful and erudite New Yorker piece on Secularism, wherein some of the concepts you note are dealt with cogently.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, August 13, 2011  

  • Rich,

    God, if he ever existed in the sense that you talk about, died when we dropped the first atom bomb. We buried him at Nuremberg.


    By Blogger Paul Kimball, at Sunday, August 14, 2011  

  • "God died in the mid 1940s." Why did God not die in the 19th century? After all, it was the United States government that was responsible, under the auspices of the Monroe Doctrine, for the extermination of 10 million Native Americans, the theft of their land, and the confinement of their fragmented remains to concentration camps more euphemistically known as Indian Reservations. Or why did He not die in 1918 as a consequence of the Armenian genocide?

    By Blogger ffkling, at Sunday, August 14, 2011  

  • Paul:

    My imagined God was certainly on life-support (because of the Jewish slaughter), and may have finally succumbed when the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs took their toll.

    But there was an empathy with the Jews and their plight, whereas the Japanese would have been succored by Shiva perhaps.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, August 14, 2011  


    God was surely sickened by those atrocities, if my scenario has any validity.

    But it's the historic connection with the Jews that was the nail in the divine coffin, as it were.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, August 14, 2011  

  • There have been several holocausts, ethnocides over the centuries. The Holocaust of Jewry was just one of the more recent and probably the most efficient, and well documented with film footage (the Nazis needed to record their own crimes for reasons relating to deeply unconscious pathologies). Genocide by trial balance and income statement.

    Re the comment above re the genocide of Native Americans, it wasn't just in the USA, it was across Latin America with the Spanish and Portuguese conquests. What of slavery? There has been genocide in Asia, what of Darfur etc etc?

    My five cents - let us not mistake the death of God in men for the death of God.

    Getting back to the heart of the matter: the secular UFO age.. Don't all of us who subscribe to a psycho-social hypothesis, or the more radical parapsychological, interdimensional, even parasocial hypothesis (or to use J Clark's and L Coleman's term 'paraufology' before they rather bemusedly abandoned it) - whatever our differences - not take the interpretation of the UFO mystery as ET craft (and 'aliens' as a whole) as symptomatic, an effect of the secularization of our culture and its scientism, as a given?

    Or is it too obvious to see clearly?

    Isn't one of the multiple meanings of the 'alien' the cosmic jest we are playing on ourselves, the tragically hilarious pun - the 'alien' is our alienated selves reflected back to us? I could not think of a more appropriate demon than the 'alien' for our alienating age, alienated from ourselves and our society, alienated from an increasingly marginilized natural world. As with dreams, our unconscious is playing tricks on us, and the unconscious loves puns..

    The alien is the demon par excellence for a secular age, where self-knowledge is taboo. Only lonely alienated men would even ask the question - are we alone in the universe? The question determines the answer, the alien fits the bill for an insane society whose dreams are Kafka's nightmares (as Ernst Pawel his esteemed biographer put it).

    Fairie have been excommunicated, yet the repressed is returned, and returned with interest.

    By Blogger Lawrence, at Sunday, August 14, 2011  

  • Lawrence:

    The difference for me, in the Jewish/God connection derives from the special relationship that God or Yahweh (the god beneath God, the demiurgos) had with the Hebrews.

    An exegesis of that relationship was presented in a book I read many years ago and can't find since.

    The author was Paul Butterfield of Paul Butter(something). He presented the best view of the Jewish position re: God, in comparison with other cultures, and I'd quote from the book if I had it.

    (Anyone who can dredge up the author and his book for me will receive more that a token of gratitude. Yes, I've Googled all the permutations of the author's name, to no avail.)

    As for Secularism, I suggest, again, that visitors here, click on the James Woods New Yorker link in my post above. Mr. Woods' cogent article will explain much about secularism today, and his ruminations shall clear the minds of those befogged by the concept.

    Secularism is as much about faith as that of the religious minded.

    The idea that UFOs and/or aliens are a reflection of our conscious minds, being, or reality doesn't grab me.

    I think, as I've often written, that UFOs are tangible objects with control of some sort, from within or without, by sentient beings or a sentient race.

    The purpose of that sentience or those beings remains inscrutable.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, August 14, 2011  

  • "God" is the consciousness of the All. To declare that God is dead is to declare that all consciousness is dead.

    Foolish hubris from a conscious being...

    By Blogger Remus, at Sunday, August 14, 2011  

  • Remus:

    Your premise is wrong. God is not (was not) the consciousness of all.

    That's a foolish, unphilosophical statement.

    God is dead, surely, as is Jesus.

    If you're lucky, the Holy Spirit continues to exist.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, August 14, 2011  

  • If God is dead, then what was God? Define what was lost.

    I'm with Bruce on this one.

    What definition of 'God' are we dealing with here? It's not the God of the Philosophers. And a God that exists beyond space-time would likely not experience 'change' -- let alone death.

    By Blogger Parakletos, at Monday, August 15, 2011  

  • P:

    It's the ultimate Sentience, the Gnostic presence....the ineffable force that permeated the Universe.

    Since matter can neither be created nor destroyed, the ineffable one turned into Dark Matter/Energy, lost sentient life.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, August 15, 2011  

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