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Sunday, October 30, 2011

1924 Telegram requests help for extraterrestrial signals from space

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Jose Caravaca, with Jesus Pertierra, have re-discovered a 1924 telegram, from the Navy [!] which requests astronomers’ help in locating signals from Mars.

Click HERE for a readable version of the telegram.

Noteworthy is the Naval interest. (We’ve always maintained that it’s the Navy, not the Air Force, where ufologists will find significant clues to the UFO mystery.)

Also note that the request is for any electrical anomalies.

Mars, in 1924, was considered by most scientists, to possibly harbor life. That suggestion is not unusual in the time-frame, but that it was the Navy asking for the help is something to take into account.

The Navy has had a long interest in the extraterrestrial, and it has never given up that interest to the U. S. Air Force.

Look for UFO materials from the Naval branch of the U,S. military. You may strike pay-dirt, as they say.



  • Thanks for posting this. So the Communist Red Star = Mars? I never realized that, but guess it should have been obvious. Was the TV show "The Event" based on real situations which took place in the twenties? ;)

    note: http://earlyradiohistory.us/mars.htm by: Thomas H. White -- January 1, 2000, and is very interesting, I agree. (Aug. 1924 SECNAV was Curtis Wilbur http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Dwight_Wilbur, under Coolidge)

    I was also fascinated by this link:
    re: online article on Alexander Bogdanov, Red Star (1908)...07 June 2011
    "Martians as guinea pigs"

    "Russian philosopher, scientist, economist, culture theorist, science fiction writer, political activist and revolutionary (I might have missed something, but he was a real polymath!) Alexander Bogdanov wrote the novel Red Star shortly after the unsuccessful Russian revolution (1905-07). It is one of the last classical Russian utopias which the 19th-century Russian writers and philosophers produced plenty of. In 1913, Bogdanov published a prequel to Red Star, called Engineer Menni. The outline of the third book, that he didn’t complete, can be seen in his poem "A Martian Stranded on Earth" (1924)."

    Another interesting note:

    The cover of August 1924 issue of "Science and Invention", with work credited to: Browne (possibly Howard V. Brown?)

    By Blogger Bob Koford, at Sunday, October 30, 2011  

  • Assuming it's genuine, this is great stuff! I kinda wish our modern military minds were as naively keen to nail their colours to the mast. Yeah, it was a stupid idea and had no evidential basis to support it, BUT, at least they (or he, E. W. Eberle) had the balls to have a go.

    @ Bob Koford - Some nice links there; particularly the Frank R Paul gallery. That Martian is a heck of a critter.

    By Blogger Kandinsky, at Sunday, October 30, 2011  

  • Kandinsky,

    Senor Caravaca assures me that the telegram is authentic, and why wouldn't it be?

    It fits the mind set at the time, as Anthony Bragalia discovered by finding a Googled source that was in tune with the telegram.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, October 30, 2011  

  • I checked it out before posting and it does seem legit.

    What you saw there was a skeptical application of the plausible denial clause.

    As far as I could tell, through searching for similar telegrams, it first appeared in November 2009.

    The site 'Letters of Note' has such a wide range of unusual, sometimes funny, missives that I can believe it's genuine.


    It's on a couple of dozen other sites that are dated within months after their post.

    By Blogger Kandinsky, at Sunday, October 30, 2011  

  • Kandinksy...

    The important thing, for me, is the Navy connection.

    Somehow, ufologists have gotten hooked on the Air Force as the body from where the UFO mystery will be solved.

    It's the Navy, I keep writing.

    But the Air Force is so ingrained in the mind of ufologists that they can't imagine a water-based service having anything to do with weird things that fly over head.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, October 30, 2011  

  • 1. There is no detail as to the nature of the alleged signal as to it's characteristics as a signature, which is odd, if one is looking for it to repeat.
    2. There was no equipment available to determine the signal originated from terrestrial or extraterrestrial origins, and why Mars, social scripting akin to science fiction crossing the line? Any scientist even then would know this.
    3. There are any number of false signals attributed to extraterrestrial sources back in the day and more recently. Telsa immediately comes to mind at his lab in Colorado Springs.

    Frankly I think this is a red herring. A non message.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Monday, October 31, 2011  

  • Bruce,

    Let's not miss the point, which is that the Navy, well before 1945/47,
    was interested in extraterrestrials, and remains interested today.

    Tony Bragalia found a link that sort of explains what spurred the Navy to send out this telegram, and I wish he would add that link here for reader edification.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, October 31, 2011  

  • The extrapolation of Navy interest from this specific communique is a non starter for me, while I agree that the Navy is highly likely to be in the driver's seat as a probability, based on a great deal of circumstantial evidence too lengthy to be appropriately posted here.
    I simply think this is a poor example to use, if this is the point of the exercise. It negates this probability for me, rather than more compelling examples which affirm this mutual suspicion we share.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Monday, October 31, 2011  

  • Bruce:

    Newbies and most ufologists eschew the idea that the Navy may know more about UFOs than any other branch of the military.

    That's why I keep hammering home the idea or possibility.

    Remember, not all UFO mavens have your sophistication about the topic.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, October 31, 2011  

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