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Friday, October 14, 2011

The Socorro/Rendlesham UFO symbols deciphered?

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The United States Air Force and Ray Stanford tried to corrupt Lonnie Zamora’s Socorro sighting of 1964 by interposing the idea that Officer Zamora’s original description and drawing of the symbol he spotted on the egg-shaped craft was a substitution for the real symbol – to snooker any other alleged UFO observer who might try to report that he or she saw a similar symbol.

That is, the Air Force is said to have created the (well-known) Zamora symbol here:


As a substitute for the real symbol here:


However, in the earliest reports of the Socorro incident, Officer Zamora described and drew the well-known and highly publicized symbol thusly:

This from the Hynek/Blue Book notes

This from the 1967 LOOK account

We believe the Air Force suggestion, abetted by Ray Stanford, was a diversionary effort – or disinformation tactic as ufologists like to say – to prevent interested parties from discovering the real source of the Zamora craft. (See Hughes reference below.)

Anthony Bragalia insists that the Socorro incident was a prank, created and carried out by students at the New Mexico Institute of Technology, and he’s mustered considerable circumstantial evidence for his hypothesis.

Part of his conjecture states that Zamora’s UFO was a construct, partially composed of paper, used at NMIT, from The International Paper Company, whose logo is this:


An Indiana University engineer has related that he read a piece in a still unlocated – we looked for it, seriously – magazine [circa 1968] about a paper company’s publicity-oriented hot-air balloon trek that descended in Socorro and was mistaken as Lonnie Zamora’s UFO. (The engineer’s contention has been excoriated but not totally refuted by a gaggle of ufologists, mostly residing at UFO UpDates.)

Here’s the logo of a paper company that possibly sponsored a balloon trip across country in 1964:


The RRRGroup has contended that Zamora’s UFO was a Hughes Aircraft/ToolCo Moon/Mars lander prototype, manufactured and tested under the auspices of the CIA.

Leon Davidson did a creative reworking of the Zamora drawing, showing how it displayed a convoluted and tricky reworking of the CIA sobriquet. (His paper is online here, via a previous posting.)

Matthew Gilleece did an evaluation for us a while back, and provided a logo from Hughes Toolco that is strikingly similar to Zamora’s drawing:


And during our Hughes interpretations we used Henry Dreyfuss’s Symbol Sourcebook [McGraw Hill Book Company, NY, 1972] to find symbols that look like Zamora’s drawing.

We found these mathematical and computing symbols, which Hughes’ engineers might have used on their prototype design or which can be seen as part of the Air Force instigated design:








Then we come to the 1980 Rendlesham incident(s), which provided a symbol, from one of the military witnesses:


We think that the Rendlesham UFO was a military prototype, which also used mathematical symbology as part of its designated creation:

Trigonometrical Point 1st order [Dreyfuss, Pages 95/186]

(The displacement of the black circle has meaning, and a cryptography expert should have at it.)

For us, the determination of the Zamora insignia’s creation or origin and that of the Rendlesham symbol will provide the source of UFOs witnessed, Earthly in our view – or unearthly maybe, as many die-hard ET believers have it.



  • Very interesting...

    Is not it curious that the three symbols are linked to Zamora designs arrows?.

    Since that year he uses The International Paper Company and Boise Cascade Corporation?...

    Work search extraordinary... congratulation Rich

    Pd: sorry my english

    By Blogger jacarav@ca, at Friday, October 14, 2011  

  • Thanks, jacarav...

    The Socorro insignia is key to what Zamora saw or experienced.

    It's the one aspect of his sighting that, if valid (and I think it is), can be purposeful in identifying what the Socorro UFO was.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, October 14, 2011  

  • I am not aware of any insignia been seen at Rendlesham. Who saw it and when? Both incidents occurred during night-time. The original witness statements do not mention any insignia. Is this something that has been added years later?

    By Blogger cda, at Friday, October 14, 2011  

  • Christopher:

    Surely you've seen the accounts which report some of the men saw writings and/or pictograms on the side of the Rendlesham "thing" and even took movies of it -- movies now lost.

    Google (images) "Rendlesham UFO" for the account(s).

    Rendlesham, from your part of the world, would be more readily amenable to "research" than it might be for us over here, in the American boonies.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, October 14, 2011  

  • "movies now lost" eh?
    Says it all.

    By Blogger cda, at Friday, October 14, 2011  

  • Of course, CDA, film (and other evidence, like the Roswell debris) always comes up missing, to heighten the mystery, which is ongoing for some oddball reason.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, October 14, 2011  

  • Even assuming that the spacecraft observed by Zamora was of terrestrial origin, contains too much technology and unusual factors (flight speed, agility, traces burned, vitrified sand, etc.) to be a simple balloon. And if it were a prototype space has never been seen as an artifact in the later dates, and photographs or desings that are similar.
    Skeptics use the two hypotheses, but logically be something land could only be one or balloon or spacecraft.

    Indeed the incident Zamora is inexhaustible and stands the test of time with controversial ...

    By Blogger jacarav@ca, at Friday, October 14, 2011  

  • And jacarav....

    Has there been any other UFOs like that seen by Zamora (except for the La Madera craft, which was a continuation of the prototest)?

    Zamora's craft is unique, as is the symbol he saw and drew.

    Identify that symbol and you'll know from whence his UFO came.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, October 14, 2011  

  • It could be a corporate logo on the balloon the New Mexico Tech students got hold of and it could be something they put on there themselves to help them get the balloon set right side up as they inflated it onsite and got out of there in a hurry.

    By Blogger Frank Stalter, at Friday, October 14, 2011  

  • Well, Frank...

    Once we really find out the origin or the meaning of the Socorro symbol, we'll know who or what produced Lonnie Zamora's vision.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, October 14, 2011  

  • Rich,

    The supposed "real" symbol promoted by Ray Stanford is shown to be fake.

    Is there really any need to blame the Air Force?


    By Blogger Lance, at Sunday, October 16, 2011  

  • Lance...

    I suppose you're right.

    Stanford implicated the Air Force and I got caught up in his scam.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, October 16, 2011  

  • Don't forget the Hughes Tool Company logo that RRRGroup has posted before, also similar in some ways to what Zamora says he saw (keep in mind he specifically said it was RED!): http://www.hotspotsz.com/images0/hughes.jpg

    By Blogger Matt G. (NYC), at Monday, October 17, 2011  

  • Matt G...

    The Hughes logo (you found) is noted in the posted material above.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, October 17, 2011  

  • I know you referenced the one I found (thanks!), I was referring to a Hughes logo that you guys referred to before I found that one - check the link I posted for Hughes' business card, featuring said logo in red.

    By Blogger Matt G. (NYC), at Monday, October 17, 2011  

  • Ah, the all-important Hughes logo.

    That's the clincher for us.

    Thanks for the corrective and reminder, Matt.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, October 17, 2011  

  • C'mon guys.... these two symbols are well known devices used in the docking of aircraft in flight, such as for refueling, etc...

    The first device is used for orientation: you can get roll, pitch and yaw from the 3 symbols, using a relatively straightforward instrument.

    Once you have orientation, the second device gives distance (the horizontal lines) and with a strobe, relative velocity and direction (the arrows).
    You'll often see the second symbol painted on roads for the same reason.

    Moreover, the reason they're painted red is to enhance visibility, but also because red is an easy color to filter and in the late 1960's to detect with optical means.

    If you wanted to automate the docking of two craft in flight, during the late 60's, through computer technology, that'd be one way to do it.

    By Blogger Pliny The Elder, at Wednesday, October 19, 2011  

  • Thanks, Pliny...

    That explains much, I think.

    It makes sense to me, but that doesn't count for much among some readers here.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, October 19, 2011  

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