UFO Conjecture(s)

Wednesday, November 16, 2011

Jose Caravaca and the Betty Hill Star Map

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Jose Caravaca provided this newspaper image to us:


When I told him that we had an “hypothesis” about the Hill abduction online here (early on), at this blog and at our RRRGroup blog, he sought it out and found the map we contend was displayed at the government offices where Betty Hill worked, and which she incorporated into her “experience” as the alien “star map.”

This is the map:


It is a picture of World War II troop movement.

Coupled with the initial Hill recounting that the Hill’s “abductors” had the appearance of uniformed military, similar to that of the Nazi’s, with a facial feature that contained, in Betty’s first accounts, a Jewish stereotype – large Jimmy Durante-like noses, Jose Caravaca and I think that the Hill UFO episode, including the highly touted “star map,” needs a rehash.

Senor Caravaca worked on our WWII map, overlaying it with the drawing of Betty Hill’s star map.

Here are his (progressive) renderings:




With the Nazi association, the (maybe) Jewish stereotype, and the World War II map, one can make a (hypothetical) case, which we have already done, some time ago, that the Hill “abduction” is based on a traumatic event, perhaps a racially motivated attack – the Hill’s were a mixed-marriage couple (he, African-American, she white) as you know – and the event reconfigured by Betty Hill, mostly, deriving from internalized images she garnered from her science fiction interests.

Jose Caravaca believes that the Hill “abduction” is an example of his “Distortion Theory” which you can find at his blog – The Caravaca Files (http://caravaca-files.blogspot.com).

Here’s how he put to me, in an e-mail:

I understand that the Hills had "live" experiences induced by each other, reliving psychic material belonging to both.

I bet the Hills, one or both, saw a report on the 2nd World War in the days or weeks before their "encounter."

Reviewing the atrocities committed by Nazi medical teams in concentration camps, many for pregnancy -- there was an experiment similar to that described by Betty Hill -- I do think that the experience of the Hills may have been the result of an "hallucination."

Both experienced a phenomenon of distortion.

I think all cases, if analyzed in depth, contain details as we have found in most UFO experiences and are built on human psychic material.

For example, the case of Juan Gonzalez Santos, the witness seeing a television documentary on the Apollo XI mission a week before his UFO event. Hence, his experience has details of a space mission. It is all due to distortion.

At any rate, the Hills had a bizarre experience, certainly. I don’t think Betty Hill concocted and maintained a fabricated hoax.

But what she and Barney Hill was subjected to is (still) open to interpretation, regardless of the categorical imperative – an extraterrestrial encounter -- that persons such as Stan Friedman apply to the “event.”



  • One might infer that what is seen depends on who is looking. Playing with probability, one Hill association trips another..the map. the garb, the experimentation harkens to Nazi experimentation. It was if they saw was what they associated, rearranged by the event itself in a context of a dream, which in turn relates to Dr Persinger's research..which if this is not an example of a macro scaled quantum observer effect, I don't know what is. Oops,, I corrected my own typing I had inadvertently typed wacko scaled.
    A Freudian slip on my typing fingers.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Wednesday, November 16, 2011  

  • Another comment my dementia lost..

    Missing time. Time cannot be missing. Upon awakening from a sleep state it appears to be missing. Eight hours pass and it seems like a few minutes, mostly less. Isn't the resemblance to missing time and sleep striking? That is why I term it induction rather than abduction.
    It appears to be random, and what is interesting is it happens primarily in the U.S. I would like to see a geographic map of these inductions, wouldn't you?

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Wednesday, November 16, 2011  

  • @Bruce

    Have you read Martin Cannon's excellent paper on possible mind control as it relates to this case? Fascinating to say the very least. Incidentally, I LOVE your choice of terms. "Induction" IMO is a far more appropriate/accurate terminology.

    By Blogger Jeff Davis, at Thursday, November 17, 2011  

  • Jeff,
    I read it some time ago, but respectfully,I do not believe this global phenomenon is the result of a corresponding global mind control experiment.
    Consider this was occurring long, long before that theorized technology existed.
    I think all the evidence points to natural laws of which we are ignorant of, that have nothing to do with extraterrestrials or mind control directly as a causal origin.
    Best Wishes

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Thursday, November 17, 2011  

  • Jimmy Durante was an Italian-American comedian. He wasn't Jewish. I remember watching him on the 'Ed Sullivan Show' when I was a very little girl, along with my family. His "snozolla" was used in his comedy routine as self-deprecating humor. My mother was particularly fond of him because she was of Armenian & Syrian descent and had an 'ethnic' nose herself.

    Also there seemed to be more military-type uniformed "aliens" that were seen in the 50s/60s/70s encounters and contacts. Then it tapered off. Presently it may be making a comeback with MILABs getting more attention, especially in our highly militarized American society (Leah Haley and likeminded people claiming it's all MILABs).

    Reading the Fuller book and then the recent Marden & Friedman book along with many ufo/abduction books in the interim, as well as considering my own close encounters; I've come to suspect these beings affect a person's perceptions and it's done as a control mechanism.

    In Betty's case if you're looking at a hideous, bulbous headed, slit-for-a-nose 'alien', it might be easier for the human mind to see a familiar big, comfy, funny "snozolla" instead.

    Changing our perceptions is "glamour" (originally a much deeper meaning than its present application of beauty/fashion). Glamour harkens back to fairy-lore. It seems these beings (fairies,aliens,metaterrestrials,djinn-all the same thing perhaps) have the ability to change our perceptions of what we're seeing. They seem to know enough of our individual minds to mess with them as they see fit. This isn't surprising that they can access our minds to a certain degree because of the telepathy that often accompanies a close encounter or abduction.

    I also consider that Betty had a history of previous anomalous experiences and may have been what we'd think of now as a lifetime experiencer, not a one-time "capture" who along with her husband Barney were in the wrong place at the wrong time. [Personally, I don't think there is such a thing as a one-time capture - ala Travis Walton, who I've come to believe may have hoaxed his abduction]

    Other classic abduction symptoms such as Barney's sperm being extracted (which he was deeply ashamed and shocked about and was not published in the initial written accounts)along with warts that formed in a pattern on his genitals. This showed up in other abduction accounts, but at the time were unknown to the public and unknown to most ufo researchers that were delving into abductions.

    As for the interracial marriage - This was the Northeast in the 1960s, not some podunk backwater southern area of the country. Born and raised in New England, I can state that in my very small town in the '60s there were at least a half-dozen mixed couples with families - middle-class people living in the suburbs. They were not outcasts. There were also people who descended from mixed marriages over a number of generations. Though racism existed (as it still does), mixed marriages were not a novelty in this area of the country at the time.

    ~ Susan

    By Blogger Brownie, at Sunday, November 20, 2011  

  • Susan you make some interesting and valid points.

    The view presented above is merely conjecture.

    Since we don't really know what happened to the Hills, speculation is open ended, or should be.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, November 21, 2011  

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