UFO Conjectures

Saturday, December 10, 2011

Nick Redfern recommends a new book detailing a 1964 UFO encounter

Jose Caravaca and I agree with Nick Redfern that the book pictured here is a must-read in the context of Jose's Distortion theory, and UFOs generally.

Click HERE for Nick's link to information about the event.


  • This is one of those cases that generates a lot of doubt in my mind.

    On the surface, it features an unusual collection of events and players - robot, bows and ostensibly alien humanoids. It's so unusual that it becomes evocative and plausible as long as we suspend disbelief.

    Where the account loses me is in the lengthy duration; 12 hours is a long time. If we accept Caravaca's 'Distortion Theory,' it's still anomalous when other humanoid encounters are recorded in minutes. Display or distortion becomes problematic in such an extensive account.

    The idea that intelligent entities are utterly thwarted by a guy in a tree is absurd. They can design and operate robots and don't have the problem-solving skills to get a guy out of a tree?

    I respect you, Jose and Nick, but the story has the hallmarks of fiction. It's like an Aesop fable. The link is also bursting with hyperbole.

    By Blogger Kandinsky, at Saturday, December 10, 2011  

  • Ah, but Kandinsky, whatever the story really is -- a true account, a fiction, a Distortion event, a mental aberration solidified -- it is interesting....to me, anyway.

    Dismissing it out of hand seems a bit intellectually prejudicial.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, December 10, 2011  

  • Rich/All,
    This book looks entertaining as all get out! Just as soon as I find the time to finish the 3 or 4 Nick Redfern books that I already own, you can KNOW I'll be ordering and reading this one too! Just my crazy UFO insatiable self. I fell asleep reading a "Nick Book" (Final Events) just late last night/early this morning. I read until I just passed out, waking to a cold stove fire and an impatient old dog. (not unlike her owner)

    Even though I only partially agree with the "Distortion Theory", I have to state emphatically just how much I have enjoyed Jose's well presented "classic case" oriented insight. Jose, in short, YOU ROCK!!! I also want to state that I now "get" the RRR group. What a kick ass job you guys do! Jose's blog, which I follow daily, is just BEAUTIFUL. Not to mention what a genuinely clear, and intriguingly comprehensive job you guys do of presenting MR. Caravaca's written thoughts. No one could ask for better.

    Kandinsky, IMO, is nothing short of refreshing here.This is not a case of sunshine being blown up someone's bum either. I don't know K from Adam, but I do know that I honestly look forward to the input. Kandinsky to me, represents the "classic", and deeply rich IMO I might add, English style Intellect even though that may not be where MR. K hails from. I can't explain it, but I have ALWAYS loved this effect. I think it has something to do with the LONG lineage of defined culture from whence such intellect emerges. It's a "school of culture styled thought" that I very much aspire to because of it's subdued and graceful linear quality. Not just MR. K., but rather the whole nine.

    It truly does not sound as if Kandinsky is dismissing this matter out of hand here, as much as it sounds like in light of Jose's theory, it furthers Mr.s K's perception of this reported event as being possibly false to begin with rather than being a true champion for Jose's cause. A pretty "stand up" response IMO.

    My problem with the DT is that it's universally attributed to all cases where absurdity (per recollected observations) is evident. This is not logical unless there is only one alien species, entity, or causality responsible for all such recollected experiences/events. It is far more so logical to attribute the DT to the only measurable constant within the considered study. That constant would be us the human being. This is precisely why I attribute the measured or observed subsequently reported "distortion" as being a natural bi-product of our own sentient overload and not some kind of implemented defense system on behalf of the "visitors". It is quite possible that as the event is occurring within the observers mind, the actual event itself is being observed by the witness in a completely different manner than that which is recalled. In other words, the distortion may in fact be entirely memory based, not actually occurring while the event is taking place. Such memory oriented confabulations could be attributed directly to the natural breach, contamination, merger, or pollution of the observer's consciously projected spacetime encapsulation much like our environments natural gravitational fields are distorted by attributes such as those resulting from Podkletnov experiments. Further notions of support for such confabulations representing the causality, or impetus for such recalled absurd observations might be addressed here: http://wakeup-world.com/2011/08/30/a-new-study-finds-that-memory-contaminates-perception/

    By Blogger Jeff Davis, at Sunday, December 11, 2011  

  • Jeff:

    Your memory-contamination point is one that strikes a chord with me.

    We'd have to rule out that as an explanation of some UFO events before we could move Jose's Distortion Theory to the top of the UFOs-explained list.

    But I like Jose's hypothesis, as he makes a great case for his view.

    Nothing should be off the table when it comes to UFOs.

    The phenomenon forces us to look at all possibilities, no matter how quaint, silly, or prosaic.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, December 11, 2011  

  • K:
    It's certainly a controversial story. I don't think any of us doubt that. But, I think a full read of the book is probably essential first, before we pass deep comment on it.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Sunday, December 11, 2011  

  • Rich,
    I honestly could not agree more with the omnipossible bottom line of your philosophical stance here. When I give it a little thought, isn't that the very essence of that which keeps us all so perpetually intrigued?

    It's all speculation of which I'm happy to be a part, relatively speaking.

    The nature of UFO intrigue underlines an incredibly strong attraction to, possibly even an addiction to, magic, in the conjurers most wide eyed, and appealing sense. It makes children of us all.

    By Blogger Jeff Davis, at Sunday, December 11, 2011  

  • I've been noting the buzz on this book and ordered it a few days ago.
    I hope to read it sometime Christmas week.

    Considering the high strangeness that rears its head in many close encounters, this might very well be a truthful account for all we know.

    ~ Susan

    By Blogger Brownie, at Thursday, December 15, 2011  

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