UFO Conjecture(s)

Monday, January 30, 2012

The Fantastic Four plus Two?


One of the RRRGroup contributors sent us an e-mail listing six UFO sightings (but mistakenly noting "seven") that he thinks are....well here's his e-mail opening:

Cash Landrum is part of what I call the Fantastic Seven. Seven specific UFO incidents that are of extreme interest:

1) Roswell
2) Bentwaters/Rendlesham
4) Kecksburg
5) Wanaque
6) Shag Harbor
7) Cash/Landrum


I think these sightings are UFO swill [sic]!

But what do you think?

N.B. Visitors saw that our contributor left off number three so I reworked the posting, as I couldn't get a reply about the missing Number 3.)

RR

23 Comments:

  • I'll tell you what I think: at least several of these incidents are good candiates for classified military (rather than ET, or weirdly Fortean) events.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Monday, January 30, 2012  

  • You omitted number 3.
    Human error, or something far more sinister?

    After all, there is a precedent. There was no official Report number 13 from Project Blue Book. And we all know what that implies.

    By Blogger cda, at Monday, January 30, 2012  

  • What was number 3?

    Cash-Landrum is a meaty incident that I have some small hope of being explained.

    Shag Harbor is also intriguing although it's hard to feel confident about the subsequent layers of story that detailed one object rescuing the stricken object.

    Kecksburg, I feel, has been mythologised to death although Kean's successful suit against NASA lends mystery to the incident. It's startling to see NASA being so blasé about an ex-employee allegedly taking boxes of files away. "Yeah, this guy who used to work for us sort of left the files in his garage."

    The others are best left to people who care about them.

    By Blogger Kandinsky, at Monday, January 30, 2012  

  • I agree Nick...which few do you think are military-involved?

    I think Rendlesham, Cash-Landrum, and maybe Kecksburg.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 30, 2012  

  • Christopher, you are sharp!

    I didn't notice that our groupie excluded Number 3.

    Maybe he'll re-submit, unless the MIB got him.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 30, 2012  

  • Rich: I'd say those 3 and (of course) Roswell.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Monday, January 30, 2012  

  • Roswell is iffy for me, Nick.

    Because of Haut's press release: Flying disk found/captured.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 30, 2012  

  • I corrected the posting to note that only six sightings were sent by our contributor.

    Thanks CDA and Kandinsky; you Brits are sharp as tacks!

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 30, 2012  

  • The near proximity to Christmas rules out the likelihood of Rendlesham being a classified military operation. I suppse it is just within the realms of possibility, but...

    Roswell? Where are all the docs on it, Nick? There must be several volumes, somewhere. Did the GAO make an almighty slip-up?

    By Blogger cda, at Monday, January 30, 2012  

  • I agree about Cash-Landrum, Rendlesham, and Kecksburg as most likely being military events. If there's anything to Roswell, I continue to remain unconvinced there is, than that's more than likely military as well.

    In fact, I've often wondered if Kecksburg involved the accidental launching of a US missile armed with a nuclear warhead. If that were the case, any Kecksburg info will never, ever see the light of day.

    By Blogger purrlgurrl, at Monday, January 30, 2012  

  • The only mystery about Kecksburg is that it was ever believed to be a UFO event. It was a military event either, but an astronomical event -- a fireball. See the latest entry about it on my blog.

    John Harney

    By Blogger John Harney, at Tuesday, January 31, 2012  

  • CDA:

    The Christmas issue re Rendlesham is interesting because - even though this was the Cold War era - a number of bases in the area were on skeleton staff because of the holidays, even at the MoD, as records show!

    So, if someone DID want to undertake some military event then that might have been the best time to do it, when domestic activity was low.

    Another reason why the date thing is interesting is this: in 1990, when there was a wave of Flying Triangle encounters over Belgium, and in 1993, when there was the famous "Fliying Triange" case at RAF Shawbury, England, the events occurred on March 30/31.

    If classified military events, the first date on which the military would have probably had the chance to publicize them would have been April 1 - April Fools' Day.

    Maybe, we should look at the idea that if some UFO events are military, they are timed - date-wise - to occur when things are beneificial to those that want to keep them secret: Christmas, April Fools'.

    Even Cash-Landrum was the holiday period. Maybe that theory is not as crazy as it sounds!!

    Re Roswell: The only thing I can add to this re files is that files would probably only exist if Roswell involved a UFO. And, if it did, we won't get those files.

    If Roswell was something else, weather balloon, Mogul, or even a classified military event of the type in Body Snatchers, then files may not even have been generated on the first 2, and I was told that in the Body Snatchers issue the files were destroyed decades ago to protect the guilty, thus leaving word of mouth and a few fragmentary pages of docs today, such as the FBI Teletype.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Tuesday, January 31, 2012  

  • CDA:

    I just realized I wrote:

    "If classified military events, the first date on which the military would have probably had the chance to publicize them would have been April 1 - April Fools' Day."

    I meant, of course "...the first date on which the PRESS would have probably had the chance to publicize them," had the press caught the stories immediately.

    Thus, publicizing a big UFO story on, of all days, April Fools' Day, would possibly ensure that it got written off as a joke or not taken overly seriously. Which would be good for the military, if a military event.

    It's early in the morning here, and only had one mug of tea so far, hence my mistake above LOL.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Tuesday, January 31, 2012  

  • On the matter of Rendlesham being a military event, there's this story, which is expanded on at greater length in my Final Events book, but which is summarized at my Final Events blog, at the link below:

    http://eventsfinal.blogspot.com/2010/12/holograms-at-rendlesham.html

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Tuesday, January 31, 2012  

  • I agree with #3

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Tuesday, January 31, 2012  

  • Don't we all, BD?

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, January 31, 2012  

  • Rich
    I love your wordage. Swill. Reminds me of gruel from a trash bin or a fine camel piss soup.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Tuesday, January 31, 2012  

  • Thanks, BD....I think.

    Our contributor offered his six "important" UFO events or sightings and I felt they were at the top of my list of banal or hackneyed UFO sightings.

    There are so many others that intrigue and are never or rarely discussed.

    I was hoping some of our visitors might list a few, but...

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, January 31, 2012  

  • why, dear UK pals don't you suggest a true unidentified such as Lakenheath, 1956?

    By Blogger ilfakiro, at Tuesday, January 31, 2012  

  • For other examples of strong, good cases, how about these two:

    1. Lakenheath, England, 1956 (radar, visual, rumored gun-camera footage).

    2. Captain Coyne, helicopter-UFO encounter, Ohio, 1973.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Tuesday, January 31, 2012  

  • Er...I just did! Synchronicity? ;)

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Tuesday, January 31, 2012  

  • I'd add for consideration these two interesting multiple witness close encounter cases:

    The Kelly Cahill Abduction in Belgrave Victoria, Australia - multiple witnesses/close encounters and 'missing time' event. (8.8.1993)

    And, The Ruwa Zimbabwe multiple witnesses [Ariel School students] close encounter and 'missing time' event. (9.16.1994)

    ~ Susan Brown

    By Blogger Brownie, at Wednesday, February 01, 2012  

  • I think Number 3 is Repeater Terauchi's "Gigantic Spaceship" fantasy over Alaska, one of the biggest total zeros in all of "UFO" mythology. That or the Minot Missle Base fairy tale, since the RendleSham (aka Halt's Hoax) and the Cash/Scheussler Hoax are listed.

    By Blogger zoamchomsky, at Monday, February 06, 2012  

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