UFO Conjecture(s)

Sunday, January 15, 2012

Two UFO things that baffle (me)

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In Peter Kolosimo’s Spaceships in Prehistory (noted here in a previous posting) are these two pictorials of ancient drawings on cave walls:



Such images are used by Ancient Astronaut theorists to indicate that the pictures depict extraterrestrials wearing space helmets, like those used by today’s Earthian astronauts.

The extraterrestrials, apparently couldn’t breathe Earth’s oxygen-rich air, when they visited eons ago.

However, today’s alleged extraterrestrial visitors – the so-called “grays” – don’t need helmets, as they are generally spotted without any.

Why would this be?

Also, why would AA’s space visitors be wearing space gear like that of Earth’s Twentieth Century space travelers, but not something a little more advanced?

It’s queer.

Then, while I continue my reading of Kevin Randle’s very interesting book, Reflections of a UFO Investigator, I read a case study on Page 50 about an unnamed farmer who, among several others, found weird, circular depressions in his fields.

But this fellow also saw an egg-shaped craft, from which emerged two small entities (and left with a blue-flame propulsion thrust):


Mr. Randle cites the Lonnie Zamora sighting from 10 years earlier, and wonders if the farmer was telling a tale based on that famous sighting.

What intrigues me is that the farmer’s egg-shaped craft was drawn, by the farmer, with the egg standing upright on landing legs, not unlike another sighting noted earlier here.

Zamora’s craft was drawn with the egg-shaped craft horizontal, not upright (similar to the La Madera craft seen in the same time-frame – 1964):


Why would a hoaxer not follow the Zamora drawing if they were using that sighting as the template for their fraud?

Or did Zamora have it wrong?

Just wondering….



  • I think your understandable question in terms of comparatively more recent accounts of helmets goes back to Jose's distortion theory . The reason for this distortion theory being likely is the purpose of helmets based on the assumption what is described as a biological creature which either breathes our atmosphere or does not. I could counter my own argument by saying what NASA does, that is it may be a means to avoid potential toxins by contamination in terms of biology. It seems to me that leads to distortion versus more than one ET biology at work which in terms of probability seems silly.
    In terms of ancient images, a halo effect or luminosity around the heads of sacred creatures is a very common image across cultures.
    In terms of sideways or upside down "eggs", we have craft that can land both in an upright ( launch) position as well as a horizontal ( launch-land) position.
    Hmm were they arriving or departing? But again I think Jose in the aggregate sum ( considering the entire catalog) probably has it right.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Sunday, January 15, 2012  

  • Two guys and egg-shaped craft caught my attention.

    I'm glad you've made peace with Kevin Randle; I wrote a complimentary reply to the earlier blog...and didn't post it. He's one of the good guys in my opinion. CDA is his nemesis and I respect his posts too.

    UFO-fatigue may have colluded with New Year excess to render my thoughts pointless.

    Maybe he was right to doubt the witness? I haven't read the book and can only wonder. I have noticed that KR is relaxed with the idea of crashed craft, and bodies, and yet reluctant to entertain the idea of 'entities' in general.

    It's just an observation and I recognise that we all have our 'no-go areas' in the discussion of various phenomena.

    For whatever reason (Jungian, Freudian or bloody-mindedness), the egg-shaped craft accounts appeal to me. The little guys tended to be decked out in their haz-mat outfits and seem more *plausible* than the psychic terrorism of those little bastards...the Greys.

    As to the hi-tech, futuristic quality of their apparel? Beyond the descriptions of 'seamless,'it's hard to imagine how much further clothing design can go.

    From the tribes of who-knows-where to the citizens of a metropolis, they all wear something. To satisfy our notions of futuristic garb, maybe the seamless, one-piece garments should feature flashing circuitry?

    I'm being flippant and yet the question is there - is the evolution of clothing form and function infinite?

    Probably not.

    *If* the accounts are true, it's hard to debunk them on the basis that central casting would have provided more impressive gadgets and costumes.

    By Blogger Kandinsky, at Sunday, January 15, 2012  

  • From Zamora's account:

    Car appeared to be up on radiator or on trunk, this first glance.

    I think that might be a clue... It doesn't imply a horizontal position, but an angled one.

    By Blogger Parakletos, at Sunday, January 15, 2012  

  • Bruce has hit on something quite interesting regarding the question of helmets.

    Every second of our existence all of us are under relentless attack. And they mean to kill us. Through some built-in structural defenses and the intervention of an aggressive immune system, we survive. For a while. The loss of immune system function is catastrophic; consider the fate of HIV patients who progress to AIDS.

    We live in a veritable cloud of viruses, bacteria and fungi. A life of biological crime IS the mode of existence for many species on Earth. Accordingly, anyone visiting a living planet like ours would be well advised to exercise caution. Indigenous beings will have long immune experience against the local microbes. But visitors might be wise to isolate themselves to be sure they don't end up ill or dead. Maybe the War of the Worlds had this aspect of interplanetary travel correct. Could the helmets and suits depicted in ancient drawings represent not a problem with the oxygen levels, but a need for barriers against attack by swarms of exotic (to them) terrestrial microbes?

    Could the barrier technology ever be discarded? In principle, if the visitors managed to produce a roster of the dangerous agents they could proactively immunize themselves against them. The same thing we do (some of us at least) to prevent diseases like polio, tetanus, measles, etc.

    And maybe I have it all backwards. Maybe they were trying to keep humans safe. There are several implications for AA theorists to mull over...

    It is strange and I thank you for indulging me in a bit of wild speculation. I hope others will contribute their thoughts as well.

    Tyler Kokjohn

    By Blogger calliebuddy, at Monday, January 16, 2012  

  • Tyler:

    The conjectures should be many, as yours.

    What is troubling for me is that visitors from other galaxies or places in the Universe -- ours or there's -- would be wearing a helmet not unlike that of our astronauts or scifi "characters."


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 16, 2012  

  • I think the vastness of space-time should eliminate most of these questions before they are asked. A being designed or evolved similarly to us would seek out worlds like our own, or at the least, our world would be within a range targeted for study. The fact is probably that we are under constant observation by countless space-faring species and have been for a long, long time. Some of these species are liable to have developed, and require, pressure suits along with the requisite helmets. So, our cave drawings are possibly accurate representations of aliens. Or god-like entities with halos. Or both...

    By Blogger TSP, at Tuesday, January 17, 2012  

  • TSP,

    Why should they need to exit their craft at all? If they have technology that permits them to travel here, then surely they have robots too...

    By Blogger Parakletos, at Tuesday, January 17, 2012  

  • Agreed. All possibilities must be considered. But this also means that some civilizations will have avoided the development of robotics, whereas others will consider robotic exploration blasphemy or laziness or lacking in adventure. There are as many reasons as there are potential permutations... The safest route has always seemed to me to be recognition of the near absolute fact of alien life, and equal recognition that anything advanced enough to look in on us is also advanced enough to either hide that fact, or not have to.

    By Blogger TSP, at Wednesday, January 18, 2012  

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