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Thursday, January 26, 2012

UFO UpDates and Magoniax

We sneak into UFO UpDates now and then to see how the lower half lives.

Surprisingly, the site for “list members” – the mantle readers and users of the site like to be known by – has become a link source for newspapers, magazine, and internet sites, losing it’s previous cachet as a source for UFO news and ideas by ufology’s “best and brightest.”

Errol Bruce-Knapp has lost his site’s dominance for unique UFO ideas and news, mostly because most UFO mavens seek more dynamic sites and blogs about UFOs.

UpDates is really old school, using a format that was good for the 1970s but not anywhere near what the trends are for 2012.

UpDates is so over…

Our friend Chris Aubeck allowed us back into his Yahoo sited Magoniax (once Jerry Clark departed), where “members” provide UFO and UFO-like observations from archived sources mostly.

Chris’s forum is a repository more than anything, used by such oldsters as Ray Dickenson and Martin Shough (both are also UpDate “contributors”), who like to gather UFO materials, just to have them.

They don’t do anything, as far as we can tell, with the stuff they collect. They are hoarders.

We’ve touched on this before: the collection of sightings, just to collect then.

What Chris is planning is not known by us, but we hope it’s something more than a litany of old observations that have a UFO patina.

Getting rid of the hoarders and encouraging theoretical UFO hobbyists would go a long way toward cleansing Magoniax and saving UFO UpDates.


  • I've only been a subscriber to UFO Updates for 18 months but your description seems right. I have plowed through some of the archives while researching the Hill case, and it seems that even three years ago, there was a lot more subscriber content.

    I have to wonder if these are factors:

    1) aging subscriber base with nothing much new to add
    2) younger UFO buffs prefer blogs and podcast forums
    3) occasional controversies (Carol Rainey/Emma Woods v. Hopkins/Jacobs) turn into vicious personal assaults far removed from the evidence, which drives away most rational people
    4) goddamn Facebook!

    By Blogger Terry the Censor, at Sunday, January 29, 2012  

  • Terry:

    You're right....It's a combination of those things you list.

    And it's also the condescending attitude of the UFO old-timers.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, January 29, 2012  

  • My "friend" Chris Aubeck corrects me on several fronts and chides me also:

    Jerry Clark is still an active member of Magonia Exchange and I only have access to Magonia Discussions to which Martin Shough, Chris informs me, is a valuable contributor.

    I am slugged for not contributing, which puts my "membership" on the line I think.

    Gathering information is one thing; doing something with it is another.

    I was picking on UFO UpDates mostly, not Chris Aubeck's Magonia enterprise. but there it is...

    I hope I haven't angered Chris too much.

    We'll see...


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, January 31, 2012  

  • 5) Advocates of the "UFO" myth--Jerry Clark and Bruce Maccabee particularly--being exposed as obfuscators and prevaricators regularly for nearly two decades by PSH Pelicanists and CSICOPers.

    By Blogger zoamchomsky, at Sunday, February 12, 2012  

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