UFO Conjecture(s)

Saturday, January 14, 2012

Ufology: Ignorance and the concepts of Freud’s Totem and Taboo

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It is highly disturbing for those who have an intellectual bent to have to cope with the ignorant comments and asides of those who presume to beset blogs and web-sites with their broadsides or to create wholesale pastiches of palaver like mine, this being an example.

But here with are, within the internet world, exposing our biases and stupidities for all to see, most not getting enlightened by anything they read or discover online.

Buying a book and devouring it is passé for the great unwashed, from whom we derive, here, a cursory commentary that is steeped in gatherings from other rabble on the web.

And this rabble is enamored of the paranormal, infusing it with more than it deserves.

Freud tells us in his monumental work from 1912-1913, Totem and Taboo, page 113 of the Vintage paperback, 1960:

“Thus the omnipotence of thought, the over-estimation of psychic processes as opposed to reality, proves to be of unlimited effect in the neurotic’s affective life and in all that emanates from it.”

And the insistence that UFOs and all the ruminations about it are important goes to the heart of this neuroticism.

An example of how I suspect that we are suffused here with neurotics is the avoidance of any discussion about the posting, by me, a few days ago, about an Orgasmic UFO event.

The subject is taboo for UFO aficionados, even though sexual elements are rife in UFO cases, as one will see by reviewing UFO accounts from ancient references right up to and including the contactee era (as delineated by Nick Redfern in his book, Contactees and many of the cases that Kevin Randle investigated or provides in his new book, reviewed here partially, yesterday, 1/13/12).

The sexual aspect of UFO abductions are blatant, obvious. The subtler sexual aspects of UFO sightings, generally, are not obvious, but there nonetheless.

And here is an example of the sexual nature found in UFO iconography from the past, and overlooked by Ancient Astronaut theorists;

This from Peter Kolosimo’s wonderful, pictorial book, Spaceships in Prehistory [University Books, Inc, Secaucus, NJ, 1976, Page 223]:


This is a stele of the Lunigians, preserved in a museum at Spezia, Kolosimo writes.

It is representational of the many statues and images of the Phallic god of ancient times, of which the Hebrew god, Yahweh, was one.

Did the gods of old, the so-called extraterrestrial visitors of the AA crowd, accentuate sexuality, the procreation of humankind, and are still doing so today?

Ah, but the subject matter is taboo. Why? Because UFO mavens are an ignorant, repressed lot, as psychoanalytics would have it, and social historians, like Tocqueville, would also.

One can’t really broach the topic of sexuality in the realm of UFOs, because the field is flush with sexist attitudes (See UFO Updates for example after example) and perverse sexual psychopaths who concentrate on the homosexual insinuation of “probes” while ignoring the generic sexual symbolism that has been substantiated by psychologists and anthropologists for decades.

I agree, it’s not a comfortable topic, but it needs to be addressed, even if only peripherally.

I won’t go further with this here, or generally, at this particular blog.

The topic is for cognoscenti, and a few enlightened individuals, for whom psychology is not an esoteric realm, like alchemy or witchcraft and ghost-hunting.

But, at least, consider the possibility that UFO accounts have a sexual underpinning, psychologically or even extraterrestrially.



  • Bruce Duensing comments privately and sums up the reality in two sentences.

    Now if everyone would or could do that, I'd be less snarky and obnoxiously arrogrant.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, January 14, 2012  

  • If you ever considered why I respond to your obnoxious arrogance,you serve as a tonic in the style of Ambrose Bierce, who like yourself was known for the purity of his misanthropy and fierce social criticism arising from his iconoclastic views in the face of pablum. Bierce always faced just as good criticism as he dished out, but he always provoked thought. Someone once said that when you are dead, it is not the bad you did, not the good you did but it is when you did nothing..that is the regret of the dead.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Saturday, January 14, 2012  

  • Thank, BD....I think...


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, January 14, 2012  

  • "One can’t really broach the topic of sexuality in the realm of UFOs,..."

    Oh yes one can. Occasionally.

    See for example chapter 11 of "UFOs a Scientific Debate", (Edited by Sagan and Page, 1972). The chapter is entitled "Psychiatry and UFO Reports" by Lester Grinspoon and Alan D. Persky.

    By Blogger cda, at Saturday, January 14, 2012  

  • Thanks, Christopher.

    You always correct my generalities.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, January 14, 2012  

  • Incubus, Succubus, the Grays and their "egg and sperm extractions", Sex-Magick, fairy changelings, Truman Bethurum and Auru Rhanes, Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy - all sex, all connected, all one phenomenon (if we can maybe understand it one day).

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Saturday, January 14, 2012  

  • Also..in the spirit of a full compendium..Jung's Anima and Animus, particularly what he termed the dark
    female animus in relation to male accounts. Not sexual in the physical sense but certainly in the role of seduction narratives. I have always noted how many of these accounts are from males..not females. I don't think this is coincidental.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Saturday, January 14, 2012  

  • I may be among the unwashed; yet, here is my comment, ignorant or not. Freud seems to have a death-grip on what he calls "reality", while most who actually believe in UFOs, without having seen anything of the kind, are clinging to a sort of faith in the testimonies of those who have. My belief in alien visitation took a quantum leap in the readings of The Lost Enki Sumerian Tablets and the exhaustive renderings by Sitchin concerning what he translated to have been the account of who the Annunaki were and their collective role in the creation and development of human kind. Reality? Toss a coin; but, it's a very compelling scenario, not only from a historical standpoint; but, an anthropological point of reference as well. If we consider the tablets are factual ("reality" for Freud and such) then we must accept that they created us. As I read the tablets, I'm struck by the passe manner in which sexual relations are viewed by the very ones that created human kind and watched and nourished this new creation as it developed into a sentient being. I am also struck by the common place members of this space visitor assembly as they watched the development of these new creations, impatiently waiting for the chance to indulge in sexual relations with these beautiful and alluring "daughters of men". I doubt Freud could himself imagine such a situation in his reality; yet, the tablet texts are given as factual. Whatever the mores of the Annunaki heirarchy were at the time were passed on to their new progeny. That, in turn has been filtered down through the mists of time to whatever we have come to understand about sexuality today in all its various and sundry ramifications. Yet, sex is sex, whatever we make of it. We are not given any indication that the Old Testamaent God helped man develop proper sexual relations. No, he just kicked the man and woman out of the Garden and that was that. In the tablets, there was much ado about the mingling of the Annunaki and the offspring of mankind and I'm not so sure that it was all for pleasure, seeing how their offspring had access, as their creators, to power, longevity and status as demigods. Who can know, in the UFO "reality", whether that agenda is still being played out and for what purpose? I'd wager what little spare cash I have that there are UFO encounters that are still fulfilling some of that ancient sexual agenda...simply because they own the technology and us in some form or another. Proof? First, someone give me proof that Freud understood any "reality" other than his own. Ultimately, I must contend that if these "creators" returned, we would have a difficult time adjusting to how they viewed the nature of sex. They may have moved the whole subject into a purely scientific, utilitarian realm and far away from the emotional attachment with which we relate to sex in the modern, civilized world. So, you see - one can broach the topic of sexuality in the realm of UFOs; but, I doubt it will turn out to be sexuality as we (or Dr. Freud) assessed it to be.

    By Blogger roger s, at Wednesday, January 18, 2012  

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