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Friday, February 17, 2012

The Roswell Hat



Ufologists and especially Kevin Randle's "Dream Team" -- if they find out whose hat that is behind General Ramey, circled in red here, in one of the famous 1947 Roswell debris photographs, they will have the key witness to the alleged debris switch.

Find out whose hat that is and Roswell will be solved, once and for all....if the owner is still alive (or has left a diary and/or notes).

17 Comments:

  • That hat belongs to one of the ETs and was recovered from the desert. Unfortunately when Ramey dispatched the debris and bodies to Wright Field, he forgot the hat.

    So you are right - the great Roswell secret is there for all to see.

    Now find that hat and check it for DNA.

    By Blogger cda, at Friday, February 17, 2012  

  • Let's hope, Christopher, that Randle's "team" hops on this, and settles the Roswell matter once and for all.

    That hat and its DNA is the solution!

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, February 17, 2012  

  • Good lord! And I get accused of digging too much into the infinite complexities of Roswell by a certain RR...LOL

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Friday, February 17, 2012  

  • Nick:

    It's the "digging" that is errant.

    The truth of Roswell has been right in front of ufologists all along: the hat is the smoking gun!

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, February 17, 2012  

  • Dick Tracy

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, February 17, 2012  

  • The hat belongs to J. Bond Johnson who took six of the photographs in Ramey's office (though some claim he only took four). Johnson told me that you could see his hat in some of the pictures.

    Hope this helps.

    By Blogger KRandle, at Friday, February 17, 2012  

  • ah ah ah, good job kevin!
    It's seems to me that double R's wildest dream is to be part of "dream team".....ah ah ah

    By Blogger ilfakiro, at Friday, February 17, 2012  

  • Sorry. ilfakiro:

    RR is not a "joiner."

    The Dream Team is for real ufologists, of which I am not one, obviously.

    I'm an iconoclast; dream teams don't need iconoclasts in their midst, although skeptics should be a must.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, February 18, 2012  

  • Hmmm..Does Johnson have a hard copy for the receipt for the Dick Tracy hat to prove ownership and has it been analyzed for possible forgeries? Why was the said hat left where it could be sat on, therefore was Johnson hiding something under his hat? Like..evidence, perhaps the lunch that he claimed his wife bagged for him. He says it was bologna She says tuna fish. All very circumstantial and suspicious which remains today a fascinating case of motives and opportunity.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Saturday, February 18, 2012  

  • BTW..Johnson said " (Marcel )told the writers that the material he was holding was some of the less interesting parts of the wreckage ... and that although the wreckage looked like tinfoil and balsa wood that in no way did this wreckage resemble such materials."
    If the material was part of the wreckage as Marcel said although "less interesting" then tin foil and balsa wood was a part of the construction materials used in the fabrication of a interstellar vehicle, according to Marcel.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Saturday, February 18, 2012  

  • Bruce:

    Interesting to see what Marcel told Friedman and Moore:

    "The stuff in that one photo was pieces of the actual stuff we had found. It was not a staged photo.
    Later they cleared out our wreckage and substituted some of their own. ... I was not in these."

    [THE ROSWELL INCIDENT, p.70]

    Oh yes he was in these. The one photo shown is severely cropped, but the other pics were not published until the Randle & Schmitt book ten years later, and printed in full. As soon as it became obvious all the photos showed the same junk, the ETHers had to find a way of explaining them. Hence the substituted balloon debris and the birth of a legend; the legend being the ersatz balloon. And Marcel is clearly shown in 2 photos not one.

    Despite this, I agree Kevin is probably right about the hat. To be honest, it looks like a terrestrial hat (I think!).

    By Blogger cda, at Saturday, February 18, 2012  

  • Okay, so you guys make a snarky little comment about the hat and I give you the answer. At that point you rush off in another direction.

    CDA, Bruce -

    Johnson said lots of things about the pictures and his interaction with Ramey, DuBose and Marcel. He also said that he had written the newspaper article for the Star-Telegram on July 9, and later said that Ramey didn't know what it was until later... but the article said Ramey had identified it. At that point Johnson changed his story, again.

    The quote attributed to Marcel about the pictures and reported in Moore's book has been changed two times... each time as additional pictures were discovered. In the book it said one... later Moore published the quotes again, but now they said two...

    Finally, as you pick and choose your information (something we on the Team are avoiding in our final analysis), Johnny Mann, a reporter for WWL-TV in New Orleans, showed Marcel the pictures printed in Moore's book and Marcel said, "That's not the stuff I picked up..."

    The point is that you don't have all the information, or if you do, you choose to ignore that which does not conform to your belief structure. We are attempting to sort all this out...

    So, once again, the hat is Johnson's, and the tie and overseas cap on the radiator (not shown in the photo as published here) belongs to Ramey.

    And, as I say, we're looking for the answers and not personal opinion.

    By Blogger KRandle, at Saturday, February 18, 2012  

  • The quote from Johnson was direct not second hand from anyone's book and due to the inconsistencies of his attributed statements, it's another moot point as to whether the inconsistencies came from second hand sources, or Johnson. It is not reliable testimony. again without direct evidence, I am sure that everything is just what you said it was, which is simply opinion, as well as opinion as to the final product of The Dream team avoiding the use of them from witnesses, etc as evidence. Otherwise, the exercise is simply a take on innuendo and inference, which we have a plenty.
    I hope your opinion of your own efforts turns out to be true, but a sense of humor helps a potentially turgid and tired subject for me. I hope you find the smoking gun as long as it isn't another cap pistol. Time will tell.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Saturday, February 18, 2012  

  • Bruce is right on the button...

    The Hat posting was for fun; somehow it got taken seriously by a few.

    But I did like Kevin's clarification, as that hat, sitting behind Ramey, forlornly, was a bit odd, considering the circumstances.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, February 18, 2012  

  • ...interesting how all you pro- AND anti- Roswell 'experts' are studiously ignoring the off-debated archaeologist witness evidence...

    ...let's face it, the hat belongs to French archaeologist René Belloq....

    By Blogger Kurt Peters, at Saturday, February 18, 2012  

  • Dear Kevin,
    "Johnny Mann, a reporter for WWL-TV in New Orleans, showed Marcel the pictures printed in Moore's book and Marcel said, "That's not the stuff I picked up..."

    If it was presented the 2 pictures in the Moore's book, they are the pictures pages 34 & 35 if I'm correct. They are severaly cropped and very bad (I have a reproduction in my own Roswell's book). For example, the main stuffes, the sticks and foils (radar-targets) dont appear on these pictures !
    So difficult for him to recognize something or not if it is not on the pictures !

    There is another problem, the interview is nor recorded if I'm correct : So, Marcel's reply could depend too on what Jonnhy Mann tell to him. If the interviewer told him, "you are a balloon envelop in that picture", well it influenced him and it could "drive" to the answer Marcel done.

    As Lance remarked in your blog last year or in 2010, a Marcel's photo with the debris was published in the Roswell newspaper (in my memory the 10 july 1947 ?) with the debris !
    So, he have probably saw it in 1947, and when he said the picture(s) he was in is (are) with the Foster ranch debris, he probably know what picture he is refering by saying the picture he is are with the Foster Ranch debris.
    ...And the picture(s) show(s) radar-Targets and balloon materials, I regret...

    Regards,

    Gilles.

    By Blogger Gilles. F., at Sunday, February 19, 2012  

  • RRR Group said: "...the hat is the smoking gun!"

    I'm sorry, but I'm afraid it's not a smoking gun. It's a smoking hat, which, along with a smoking jacket, forms an ensemble worn by fashion-conscious gentlemen, while, uh, smoking.

    The smoking gun is of course appropriate only for those outdoor city venues at which informal Tobacco Attire is required. Never to be confused with the side-by-side long guns necessary for shooting weekends in the country.

    I hope. sir, this has been of some assistance.

    (Oh, damn, I've got to stop watching Downton Abbey!)

    By Blogger Jum, at Wednesday, February 22, 2012  

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