UFO Conjectures

Sunday, June 10, 2012

Kenneth Arnold's "The Flying Saucer As I Saw It"

Don Ecsedy has a marvelous UFO site and in conjunction with the "conversations" at Kevin Randle's blog and UFO UpDates about the iconic Kenneth Arnold sighting and its aftermath Don has provided a link to the pages of  Ken Arnold's The Flying Saucer As I Saw It which appear at his site.

Click HERE to access those pages (and Don's site).



  • ...I have tried to leave clues......I really have....

    ...BUT I am amazed to see this blogpost about about Arnold, without any mention of Linda Moulton Howe.

    Seriously, even the clumsy efforts of the 'CDA' could maybe piece together the Arnold-Howe longterm hoax connection????

    By Blogger Kurt Peters, at Sunday, June 10, 2012  


    'Pied Piper' attempts to hose-off critics:


    By Anonymous SAPSTOE, at Sunday, June 10, 2012  

  • I read the piece and came away with the overview of the Arnold material as a prime example of seeing alligators under the bed.

    This coming someone stereotyped by media types as a sober businessman -aviator who was not prone to such flights of imaginative fancy inferring that may have predated his infamous flight.
    Did Arnold harbor a predilection for science fictions turned upside down or was he scrambling to justify what he saw?

    The Arnold musings are the sort of cross contaminated bias projection that is a broad brush that, as an ink blot makes a round peg possible to fit into a square hole.

    The lack of focus shows in the material by throwing everything, including the kitchen sink at the phenomenon to make it an empirical state of affair by threading together gossamer inferences that read like a B grade spy knockoff, laying the ground work for later conspiracy minded seekers of patterns which do not hold up unless one places a theoretical not factual overlay on top of odds and end like a quilt sublimated by soaking it in Cold War paranoia.

    If the esteemed Stephen Hawking can see evil space monsters threatening us, then I suppose Arnold's background of a protestant work ethic does not count for much in terms of revealing the quagmires that lie beneath "objectivity."

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Monday, June 11, 2012  

  • Bruce wrote: "I read the piece..."

    What piece was that?



    By Blogger Don, at Monday, June 11, 2012  

  • Don
    The material I referenced in my comments as belonging to Arnold.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Monday, June 11, 2012  

  • Bruce, I am astonished you wrote a literary critique. That was unexpected, and rather...I don't have the word.



    By Blogger Don, at Monday, June 11, 2012  

  • In regard to Arnold and the others, I think in the American experience of secrecy as a normal state of affairs, as reflected in AJB's theory on "The Blue Room", we are left with sort of a cross contaminated patina of guesses as "givens". Why?
    Democracy is like the word UFO,a wonderfully tantalizing misplacement of attention as a context for building on sand rather than a more steel and velvet approach.
    We believe our own propaganda in the absence of access to what does not exist, a unified form of governance in synch with it's many branches.
    Wherein no information held by private scrutiny is relevant in terms of deeply institutionalized bureaucratic compartmentalization that does not allow for such scrutiny that could be considered factual therefore ( to paraphrase), anything is both possible and impossible as an inference here and a inference atop a inference.
    There is no democratic fulcrum.
    In terms of secrecy, Omar Bradley, as the head of the Commander In Chief's United States S Army, did not allow President Truman to know what the Venona intercepts of Russian intelligence communications revealed about the very real degree of Soviet deep penetration of "our" government.
    I suspect this is the tip of a proverbial ice burg. Arnold and all the others languish in the dark as much as Truman did as you have competing interests within government itself. I suggest that there is no "one government" as we assume and it's buried in bureaucracy hidden by distractions of our attention. What is actually democracy is a unidentified flying subject.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Monday, June 11, 2012  

  • Bruce wrote: "We believe our own propaganda..." Words to take to heart.

    I'm not able to discuss the matter with you because I don't care to debate over opinions. I'm interested in the material found in those excerpted pages of Arnold's pamphlet. I try to let the evidence found lead where it may instead of stuffing it into my fave ideological packrat nest.

    Arnold seems to attract that kind of critique. What I see, in reviewing the work about Arnold available, is this need to make him disappear as an 'actor', to dispose of him and get him out of the way of real intellectual discourse.

    Rather than whistling, they walk along jibbering grammatically past the...well, you know.

    In A/V presentations, there is even hand-jive.



    By Blogger Don, at Monday, June 11, 2012  

  • "Did Arnold harbor a predilection for science fictions turned upside down or was he scrambling to justify what he saw?"

    Maybe someone will do the hard work and turn up his name on a subscription list to Amazing Stories, 1946, or, even earlier and obscure, The Flying Roll (flying saucer, flying roll, get it?).

    Until such a revelation, it would be of interest if you can parse through Arnold and find traces. If you have no traces to present, then maybe you might reconsider wondering about it in public places.

    But for the curious, here's something Arnold very likely knew about. An ET spaceship crash landed on earth. Inside was a little man. It turned out the little man was only a youth. He was adopted by humans and raised as one. Out of gratitude, he became the defender of humanity against the members of alien races who meant us harm. It is told he interbred with a human and a hybrid race was born.

    I am certain Arnold knew that story in 1947.

    The French psycosocialists should be gratified.



    By Blogger Don, at Monday, June 11, 2012  

  • To 'Don":

    I always preferred Marvel comics, myself...

    By Blogger Kurt Peters, at Tuesday, June 12, 2012  

  • Bruuuuuuuccceee!!!

    ...time for a shave and a bath, n'est-ce pas?

    By Anonymous Schlock Vallee, at Wednesday, June 13, 2012  

  • You Boys are, as usual, wasting your time.

    Grow UP!

    By Blogger TheNurse, at Wednesday, June 13, 2012  

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