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Friday, June 22, 2012

Chasing UFOs

National Geographic TV premieres a new show (titled above) Friday June 29th at 9 p.m. et/pt.

You can read about it by clicking HERE

It looks to be an interesting take -- an entertaining take -- on UFOs which we all love, do we not?

Mark your calendars, set your DVRs, and we'll discuss the show here after it airs.

RR


18 Comments:

  • This announcement is mildly amusing, like reading about neutrons supporting a parallel universe while your cat pooped on the carpet.
    We have Laura Croft, a film maker and the obligatory skeptic starring in in UFO Hunters Redux. All of them the best minds that NGC could assemble to both frighten themselves, run around aggressively in circles and come to no conclusion, much like those inside the Washington Beltway which is another parallel universe.
    It will either be amusing or just another virus that has landed in the ointment, like the old joke, there's a fly in my soup....Every media outlet wants to bang out escapism in tough times. This is the Broadway Melody of 1932, with gauss meters. Ghost Hunters, UFO Hunters, Bigfoot Hunters, there are a lot of territorial imperatives to choose from. Laura looks like she could drop kick a fleeing alien with the speed of batting an eyelash. Where is Groucho Marx or W.C Fields when we need them?

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Sunday, June 24, 2012  

  • Bruce...

    You're cynical?

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, June 24, 2012  

  • No, but I do toward tribal exercises.I have an appreciation for surrealism in terms of the media. If you want to chortle more directly, I really recommend "Incident at Loch Ness" by Werner Herzog that is hilarious in lampooning human behavior in regard to the paranormal in his mockumentary about the "selling" of the subject matter.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Sunday, June 24, 2012  

  • Bruce should realise that you have to keep presenting these documentaries every so often, whether any conclusion is reached or not. It is done mainly for the benefit of the masses, particularly the younger generation who don't have the historical knowledge of the topic and who have never read anything on it.

    And I presume the National Geographic name gives it a stamp of authority.

    Cynical? Not really. It adds to the UFO proliferation without, probably, adding to our knowledge.

    Entertainment - that's the key.

    By Blogger cda, at Sunday, June 24, 2012  

  • "Lara Croft"? "Entertainment"? "stamp of authority"?

    http://tinyurl.com/7qqdaqz

    Welcome to the 21st century, you geezers.

    Regards,

    Don

    By Blogger Don, at Sunday, June 24, 2012  

  • Mornin' Rich,

    Hope your recovery is coming along . . ..

    My question is, will this flapdoodle that James is participating in hurt or negate his previous most sober work? It does Ufology no favors in general.

    As for me, if a picture is worth a thousands words, then this says it all:

    http://tinyurl.com/yb24che

    I for one won't be watching . . ..

    Cheers,
    Frank

    By Blogger Frank Warren, at Thursday, June 28, 2012  

  • Frank...

    I'm feeling pretty good and when I wasn't the other day, I took your e-mail aside about nitroglycerin and popped a few....much better then and now.

    James will be okay. Chasing UFOs is an entertainment, for those who aren't UFO mavens.....newbies will love the show I think.

    One can't get worked up about anything UFO related. The phenomenon (phenomena?) is benign and a curiosity mostly, despite Mr. Hasting's superb reports of the things hovering around nuclear facilities.

    Wild fires, heat and drought, Syrian assaults on the population, little children being abducted and killed (plus a slew of other human tragedies) are much more important, it seems to me.

    Chasing UFOs is an escape from our bad, real reality.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, June 28, 2012  

  • Rich,

    You wrote:

    I took your e-mail aside about nitroglycerin and popped a few . . .

    A few! I hope they were spread apart.

    You wrote:

    James will be okay. Chasing UFOs is an entertainment, for those who aren't UFO mavens.....newbies will love the show I think.

    Sadly, I think you're right re James being "OK" as there is always more room under the circus tent. Most won't and don't realize the harm these cockamamy shows do to sober research; today Ufology is looked upon as entertainment, and "the newbies" are recipients of the caricatured version of the subject matter.

    You wrote:

    One can't get worked up about anything UFO related. The phenomenon (phenomena?) is benign and a curiosity mostly, despite Mr. Hasting's superb reports of the things hovering around nuclear facilities.

    But people do, (get worked up)
    repeatedly as evidenced by the on going discussions here and elsewhere in the blogosphere.

    I would argue that the discussion maybe benign, but until the phenomenon/phenomena has a definitive consensus, it might be much more formidable.

    You wrote:

    Wild fires, heat and drought, Syrian assaults on the population, little children being abducted and killed (plus a slew of other human tragedies) are much more important, it seems to me.

    At face value of course there is NO argument there . . . and yet we're discussing "UFOs" at The UFO Iconoclast(s). :>)

    You wrote:

    Chasing UFOs is an escape from our bad, real reality.

    Chasing UFOs (the show) is fodder for ideologues to cement their respective positions, and to continue to dumb down "the newbies" that come to the table.

    While you watch the show, I will be pulling my fingernails out to avoid the painful experience.

    Cheers,
    Frank

    By Blogger Frank Warren, at Thursday, June 28, 2012  

  • Hahahaha....don't hurt yourself.

    (I took two Nitros, five minutes apart, and thanked you as I got relief.)

    Yes, we're talking about UFOs here, but I like to keep the topic in context -- of our earthly dilemma.

    You've had some juicy things online at The UFO Chronicles, as usual:

    The Maury Island video and story for one.

    I think that UFO case deserves more scrutiny and attention.

    It seems a bit too detailed and exactly right for the time-frame in which it "happened" to be a hoax.

    What company would drop slag on a pristine beach, back then or even now?

    The idea is ludicrous.

    Something happened, something extraordinary.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, June 28, 2012  

  • Rich,

    Glad to hear about the nitro.

    Several years ago, I interviewed the last survivor of the ill-fated B-25 flight of our first (known) post war military Ufologists (Davidson & Brown); his description of the engine catching fire; jumping out of the plane and watching his comrades die before him was "intense" to say the least.

    Separately, Davidson's mother believed the "UFO people" were responsible for her son's death until the day she died.

    Cheers,
    Frank

    By Blogger Frank Warren, at Thursday, June 28, 2012  

  • And where were parachutes for the non-pilots?

    I'm not so sure it was "UFO people" but persons closer to home.

    Remember the Forrestal episode, the Jessup incident, and McDonald?

    Evil abounds...

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, June 28, 2012  

  • Rich,

    The deaths of Davidson & Brown was a horrific accident as I told a member of the Davidson family who reached out to me years ago. The Mitchell B-25 had an inherent problem with the cowlings cracking and oil seeping out into the engine, which is exactly what happened here.

    I have the order somewhere which stipulated the welding of the cowlings for all B-25's in the fleet.

    Former Sgt Elmer L. Taff (the hitchhiker) told me that he saw Brown at the door of the plane, (while he was drifting down in his parachute) and at first assumed he got out. It could have been the centrifugal force that prevented his exit (as the plane went into a spiral); however, I would like to believe Brown went back in to try and help Davidson get out.

    The crash reports tells us that Davidson's body was found still in his seat with feet on the pedals and Brown's body was found nearby with his chute partially deployed.

    Cheers,
    Frank

    By Blogger Frank Warren, at Thursday, June 28, 2012  

  • Thanks, Frank..

    That's the kind of information and details that a real investigator digs up.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, June 28, 2012  

  • Rich,

    P.S. "Taft" (not Taff) also seemed to confirm my theory that the so-called "disc bits"–were not. That is to say that Crisman didn't give Davidson anything that (allegedly) came from any exotic craft. Taft was the one that actually loaded the "cornflakes box" full of lava rock, to which he did inspect and he wasn't impressed.

    What often gets overlooked re MI is the "newspaper" type material (ala Roswell) that (also) was alleged to come out of the craft.

    Moreover, it was Vallee who presented several UFO cases (over a dozen I believe) where ejecta was associated with "craft sightings."

    "Chemical decomposition" can be used to create energy; for example gallium coated alumna combined with sodium & H2O produces hydrogen. The leftover alumna can be recycled.

    Cheers,
    Frank

    By Blogger Frank Warren, at Thursday, June 28, 2012  

  • National Geographic channel is going the way of the History channel, A&E channel and the Travel channel....freak shows, light-weight esoteric shows, para-nonsense shows ect. This seems that it will be a for-the-masses dumbed-down ufo show with characters that appear to be actors.

    If there's anything potentially redeeming it's that there is a female investigator (if that's even what they're going to do - investigating). Because on the other hand, the now defunct UFO Hunters (as much as I like Bill Birnes and enjoy listening to his podcast he co-hosts with his brilliant wife Nancy) did not include a female and I couldn't understand that.

    ~ Susan Brown

    By Blogger Brownie, at Thursday, June 28, 2012  

  • And tonight [6/28], Susan, the NatGeo popped show, about UFOs with Nick Redfern and other UFO names, used sub-titling to make the guests look like jerks.

    Nick listed as a house-painter, life-insurance salesman, grocery clerk (or something like that); others noted for their non-paying jobs with MUFON or their hobbies as musicians, et cetera, to show them as not credible UFO investigators I think.

    Shabby TV "journalism" -- and I use the word journalism very loosely.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, June 28, 2012  

  • RR - I didn't watch it, but will catch it when it repeats sometime this week. It's not surprising that there is usually the marginalization of people who investigate and/or write about UFOs or are simply interested in the topic.

    I think there's even more stigma attached to ufos than ghosts. For example - the Ghost Hunter "plumbers" are presented in a largely positive light, even though you can find some interesting youtube videos that suggest they may have planted or created false "evidence".

    ~ Susan

    By Blogger Brownie, at Friday, June 29, 2012  

  • Yes, Susan, I think you have it just right....UFOs are the fringe scum it seems.

    It, like now-dead Rodney Dangerfield, gets no respect.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, June 29, 2012  

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