UFO Conjecture(s)

Thursday, November 22, 2012

Mac Tonnies’ Crypto-terrestrials aren’t so crypto after all?

Copyright 2012, InterAmerica, Inc.

In this book [The Viking Press, NY, 1972]…

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which I was glancing through Thanksgiving night, was this (on page 20 ff.):

“The South American Secret City faith seems to reach its extreme point, through unrelated to geography or to the history of El Dorato, in a certain contemporary Brazilian cult’s belief in the city of Matatu-Araracuanga. It exists, hidden underground, somewhere in the Mata Grosso, and it is the abode of the Hidden Rulers of the World and home base of flying saucers sent out on reconnaissance flights to keep the world in order…”

The author is this man, Raymond H. Ramsay:

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Here’s the blurb from the book about him:

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Ramsay’s visage indicates an unconventional person, whom I tend to eschew, but his writing and erudition is superb.

So, I Googled “South American Secret City” and found references to a rather contemporary secret city which involved Tesla, Marconi, flying saucers, death rays, and other sci-fi-like elements.

Here are excerpts and links to a fascinating and little known or esoteric bit of history:

Marconi was given the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1909 jointly with Karl Ferdinand Braun, who made important modifications which considerably increased the range of the first Marconi transmitters. 

Like Tesla, Marconi was a mysterious man in his later years and was known to perform exotic experiments, including some in anti-gravity, aboard his yacht Electra. Marconi's yacht was a floating super-laboratory, from which he sent signals into space and lit lights in Australia in 1930. He did this with the aid of an Italian physicist named Landini by sending wave train signals through the earth, much as Tesla had done in Colorado Springs.

In June of 1936 Marconi demonstrated to Italian Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini a wave gun device that could be used as a defensive weapon. In the 1930s such devices were popularized as death rays as in a Boris Karloff film of the same name. Marconi demonstrated the ray on a busy highway north of Milan one afternoon.

Mussolini had asked his wife Rachele to also be on the highway at precisely 3:30 in the afternoon. Marconi's device caused the electrical systems in all the cars, including Rachele's, to malfunction for half an hour, while her chauffeur and other motorists checked their fuel pumps and spark plugs. At 3:35 all the cars were able to start again. Rachele Mussolini later published this account in her autobiography.

Mussolini was quite pleased with Marconi's invention. However, it is said that Pope Pius XI learned about the paralyzing rays and took steps to have Mussolini stop Marconi's research.

According to Marconi's followers, Marconi then, after faking his own death, took his yacht to South America in 1937.

SECRET CITY IN SOUTH AMERICA

A number of European scientists were said to have gone with Marconi, including Landini. In 1937, the enigmatic Italian physicist and alchemist Fulcanelli warned European physicists of the grave dangers of atomic weapons and then mysteriously vanished a few years later. He is believed to have joined Marconi's secret group in South America.

Ninety-eight scientists were said to have gone to South America where they built a city in an extinct volcanic crater in the southern jungles of Venezuela. In their secret city, financed by the great wealth they had created during their lives, they continued Marconi's work on solar energy, cosmic energy, and anti-gravity. Working secretly and apart from the world's nations, they built free-energy motors and ultimately discoid aircraft with a form of gyroscopic anti-gravity.

And This:

SECRET CITY IN SOUTH AMERICA
TESLA TECHNOLOGY

Genovese claimed that the city had been built with large financial resources, was under-ground, and had better research facilities than any other research facility in the world (at that time, at least). By 1946 the city already used a powerful collector of cosmic energy, the essential component of all matter, according to Marconi´s theories, many of which he had derived from Tesla.

In 1952, according to Genovese, we traveled above all the seas and continents in a craft whose energy supply was continuous and practically inexhaustible. It reached a speed of half a million miles an hour and withstood enormous pressures, near the limit of resistance of the alloys that composed it. The problem was to slow it down at just the right time.

According to Genovese, the city is located at the bottom of a crater, is mostly underground, and is entirely self-sufficient. The extinct volcano is covered in thick vegetation, is hundreds of miles from any roads, and is at thirteen thousand feet in the jungle mountains of the Amazon.

The French author Charroux expressed surprise and disbelief at the statement that the city was on a jungle-covered mountain that was 13,000 feet high. Yet the eastern side of the Andean cordillera has many such mountains, from Venezuela to Bolivia, spanning thousands of miles.
Several such cities and mountains could exist in this vast, unexplored, and perpetually cloud-covered region.

Yet a secret city in a jungle crater was the least of the claims.
Genovese insisted that flights to the Moon and Mars were made in their flying saucers. He claimed that once the technology had been conquered, it was relatively simple to make the trip to the Moon (a few hours) or Mars (several days). Genovese does not mention pyramids or what they did on Mars. Perhaps they created a Martian base in one of the ancient, sand-blown pyramids of the Cydonia region.

There have been many reports of UFOs in South America, especially along the edge of the mountainous jungles of the eastern Andes, from Bolivia to Venezuela. Is it possible that some of these UFOs are anti-gravity craft from the Ciudad Subterranean de los Andes?

In light of highly reliable sources who claim that a Last Battalion of German solders escaped via sub-marine in the last days of WWII to Antarctica and South America, it is possible that the Germans may have high-tech super cities in the remote jungles of South America as well. 

A number of military historians such as Col. Howard Buechner, author of Secrets of the Holy Lance, maintain that the Germans had already created bases in Queen Maud Land, opposite South Africa during the war.
Afterwards, German U-boats, in some reports as many as 100, took important scientists, aviators and politicians to the final fortress of Nazi Germany. Two of these U-boats surrendered in Argentina three months after the war. 

In 1947, the U.S. Navy invaded Antarctica, mainly Queen Maud Land, with Admiral Byrd in command. The Americans, it is reported, were defeated and several jets from the four aircraft carriers were said to have BEEN SHOT DOWN BY DISCOID CRAFT. The Navy retreated and did not return until 1957.

According to the book Chronicle of Akakor, first published in German by the journalist Karl Brugger, a German battalion had taken refuge in an underground city on the borders of Brazil and Peru. Brugger, a German journalist who lived in Manaus, was assassinated in the Rio de Janeiro suburb of Ipanema in 1981. His guide, Tatunca Nara, went on to become Jacques Cousteau´s guide on the upper Amazon. In fact, photographs of Tatunca Nara appear in Cousteau´s large coffee-table book of color photographs called Cousteau´s Amazon Journey. 

(For more information on Tatunca Nara, Karl Brugger, underground cities and Germans see my book "Lost Cities and Ancient Mysteries of South America.")

While the idea of secret cities in South America manufacturing flying saucers and battling the current powers of the world from their hidden jungle fortresses may sound too much like the plot of a James Bond movie, it appears to be rooted in fact! Based upon the above scenario, it may not be totally fantastic to suggest, as some authors have, that Tesla was picked up during the late 1930s by a flying saucer. Yet it would not have been a flying saucer from another planet, but one of Marconi´s craft from the secret city in South America.

In the most incredible scenario so far, and one that may well be true, Tesla was induced to fake his own death, just as Marconi and many of the other scientists had done, and was taken, by special discoid craft, to Marconi´s high-tech super-city. Away from the outside world, the military governments, the oil companies, the arms and aircraft manufacturers, Marconi and Tesla, both supposedly dead, continued their experiments in an atmosphere conducive to scientific achievement. 

Who knows what they may have achieved? They were ten years ahead of the Germans and twenty years ahead of the Americans in their anti-gravity technology. Could they have developed discoid spacecraft in the early 1940s, and gone on to time travel machines and hyperspace drives?
Perhaps Marconi and Tesla went into the future, and have already returned to the past!

Time travel experiments, teleportation, pyramids on Mars, Armageddon, and an eventual Golden Age on earth, may all have something to do with Tesla, Marconi and their suppressed inventions. While UFO experts and former intelligence agents tell us that flying saucers are extraterrestrial and are being currently retro-engineered by military scientists, Tesla, Marconi and their friends may be waiting for us at their space base at the pyramids and Face on Mars. 

Our government, Hollywood, and the media have trained us to certain beliefs and prejudices that amazing technology must be from extraterrestrials visiting our planet. To the scientist-philosopher who seeks knowledge sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
Links to and sources of the above material are:
Was Mac Tonnies aware of this arcane material? (I couldn’t find reference to it in his blog reproduction by Paul Kimball, but book only consists of the 2003-2004 writings and Tonnies really got into his crypto-terrestrial hypothesis after that.)
Either way, the idea of a hidden community of persons – The Hidden Rulers of the World (mentioned by Ramsay) or a secret society of scientists working on death rays and saucers – while a sci-fi staple, is ingrained in some minds, and stems from myth, legend, or psychotic musings.
Yet, the idea is not implausible, as Tonnies saw it nor did those who created the web-sites I’ve cited above.
Such a “crypto-terrestrial” presence would explain or clarify some UFO sightings and events.
RR 

3 Comments:

  • I suspect Mac's choice of "Post Human Blues" as a title for his blog reveals a certain perspective that was expanded when he took the germ of Ray Bradbury's "Martian Chronicles" and expanded that literary metaphor into a Post Martian apocalyptic tale, which I also suspect was the seed for the Cryptoterrestrials which took this theme closer to home with the specter of a post technological society promulgated by ghosts. I think his literary themes can not be taken literally as pointing to a lost technologically superior civilization that remains active in South America. The rumors regarding findings of the latest Martian survey may prove that Mac was onto something, or not.
    The projection of an alternate identity for our species, whether it is in the Old Testament anthropomorphic God, or Nietzsche's
    Superman or Extraterrestrials, or Jesus and the Roswell Centurions burying, thus murdering the corpus of knowledge was the subject of some recent commentary on my part. This fits neatly as an example of what I call psychological para-politics.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, November 23, 2012  

  • There seems to be a faction in the Ufological community clinging to the slim hope that the science fiction written in the 1930s through 1960s they read in their youth is true (blonde babes in mini skirts cruising the skies in Nazi flying saucers, for example).

    What we read and watch at a certain vulnerable age can continue to influence us the rest of our lives. There's an owner of another blog who at the age of 12 saw a schlock made-for-TV film with Barbara Eden about alien abductions and human impregnations and now takes that movie as proof alien abductions and alien-human hybridization are real even though he's way old enough to know better.

    I guess the overheated and overactive imaginations we have at puberty are fertile ground for all manner of nonsense taking root in our minds. That's a good reason why parents should be monitoring and interacting with their kids about what they're being exposed to.

    By Blogger purrlgurrl, at Friday, November 23, 2012  

  • purrigurl
    I think your comments could be expanded to the educational system as well as religious social movements as both are hugely influential in our developmental years in determining actual future outcomes as well as being very difficult to untangle.

    I think at an early age, certain distinctions get blurred between mythology and provable hypothesis and then you have loaded language, the desire or requirement for supernatural intervention...
    I am surprised not to see the title:
    "The Real Frankenstein Found! The inspiration for Mary Shelly's Novel Revealed?"

    All of these layers of blurred distinctions are rife in the old adage if belief supersedes analysis, you can find evidence for anything. The game of self referential language, suggestion and inference.

    Using your example, I agree that the actual anomalous events, and our reactions to them talk past one another. We loath holes and will fill them up with anything halfway useful lying around as a contingent solution that blurs and prevents any tenable solution.



    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Sunday, November 25, 2012  

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