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Thursday, August 08, 2013

Inside the Real AREA 51 Review – Reconsidered?

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I don’t think so!

Pressure from the writers and Warwick Associates (the PR firm for New Age Books) to rework my review goes unheeded by me.

The book stinks, as I see (read) it.

It may provide what seems like “fresh” material and information to UFO newbies, but to the rest of us, it is a rehash of old material, and presented in ways that offend those who appreciate objective, moderate, good writing (and presentation).

So, although I am pressed to emend or soften my pique with the Carey/Schmitt book, it ain’t gonna happen.

RR

23 Comments:

  • Would you recommend it as useful school or college vacation reading? Training for young minds, maybe?

    By Blogger cda, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • Hahahaha.

    I'd recommend it as a door-stop.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • Don Schmitt's UFO babblings have about as much credibility as Erich von Däniken's alien anthropology. Schmitt was outed in the mid-90' as a total fraud and UFO hustler, with completely fabricated credentials. Sort of the Al Sharpton of the paranormal. It is just another sign of the sclerotic paralysis of UFOlogy that his writings continue to be discussed.

    Thank you for reminding your readers that their time would be better spent reading an Irwin Allen script.

    By Blogger solarity, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • I always read this page with my morning coffee, and one of my tasks I assigned myself later today is to change out the power window motor on my old truck. What does this have to do with this pulp book? Its called balance in one's pursuits, the practical with the edge of provocations that over riding mysteries present. There is no balance in this book so does it surprise anybody that this was the reaction your review and subsequent comments drew? What did they expect, a free hand or a rubber stamp? Amend a review? While these authors of course have the freedom to confuse the already confused further for the sake of a payday, it rankles me that they went out of their way to obfuscate the subject further, intentionally, to promote this sort of fuzzy thinking as a gift to younger folks.Poisoning the well in advance, creating blind alleys, dead ends. Where is any sense of responsibility in this? Do we assume that they thought that no one would take this seriously? What sort of impetus is this? If they thought it would be taken seriously, this is something in my book that will not be forgiven in this life or the next. As they say down here, "that's just plain wrong."

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • I'm getting heat, surprisingly, from Anthony Bragalia, who is upset that I have upset Carey and Schmitt, who deigned to include him in their book, but diminished his stature, I think, by promoting him as a "self-employed businessman."

    Are all ufologists self-employed?

    Are there no regular, working stiffs with high credentials in the field?

    Is this book the prelude to Kevin Randle's Dream Team "new" findings?

    If it is, the effort is, as you say, Bruce, "just plain wrong."

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • To me this whole shebang smells like calculated cynicism, a sort of snake oil proposition and if they were unaware of that, what does that say about them? Either way you toss this salad, it's a wilted confection, and I think Anthony would be well served to step away from this mess instead of being rankled as a defensive position against common sense. While I have disagreed with everything Tony proposed, I had to admire a sincerity in his temerity, the willpower it takes to be set up as a target in a shooting range.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • Tony, I think, likes the idea of belonging to the Roswell "gen d'eglise."

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • Tony could write his own book that would far outshine this schlock although I highly doubt he would change my mind about anything, he has looked at the unique angles of this entangled tale in a very creative way. To be characterized as a self employed businessman diminishes what he actually does unlike others I could name. Tony is more than capable of standing on his own two feet and he needs to recognize this, even if it comes from a critic of his own theories.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • I looked in Amazon for the book. It is listed, along with others on Area 51, others on Roswell and a few on both.

    Amazon says there are so far no 'customer reviews'. Why not submit one yourself? Very few will have read the book so you need not expect any competition. Of course you will have to word differently from how you would present it in a UFO blog.

    By Blogger cda, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • I had, CDA, trouble going back in and reworking a faux pas in my review, that Redfern brought to my attention -- the German mutant children thing, which I thought was a mistake by the writers but actually was referring to Annie Jacobsen's reference in her book (Area 51) not Nick's "Body Snatchers..." as I indicated.

    (He nagged me to death so I had to go in and correct my error, and afterward I was exhausted of the topic.)

    Doing a review in Amazon would only exacerbate my soporific feelings about the book.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • Yes Rich, I like to nag and stay on top of things lol

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • And I thank you, Nick....you saved me from embarrassment or worse.

    And your nagging reminded me of my first wife, a lovely lady but an incessant shrew, whom I still love in a way.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • Bragalia is useful as a sort of litmus test for nonsense.

    Lance

    By Blogger Lance, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • "...And your nagging reminded me of my first wife, a lovely lady but an incessant shrew..."

    I'm not sure if I should take that as a good thing or not LOL

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • It's the "I still love her (sort of)" that you should zero in on, Nick.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • Er, now this is just getting creepy lol

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • But you love creepy....

    (Just not really creepy.)

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • creepy horror films, creepy chicks, creepy t-shirt logos, and that's about it lol

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • The really troublesome thing here is that a publisher would attempt to get you to amend a review. Unless the review is defamatory in some way, that's just not on.

    PK

    By Blogger Paul Kimball, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • The shot across my bow, Paul was mild:

    "You sure do find lots of faults."

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • Glowing Amazon reviews are about as useful as glowing Yelp reviews -- submitted by friends, family, and hired PR firms -- pure hype most of the time.

    Ergo, during one of my very rare visits to Amazon.com (I hate the Bezos empire passionately - sic transit gloria Washington Post), I only read the bad reviews. I figure there's a higher probability the bad reviews are more likely to be the honest ones.

    So on behalf of all of those who don't trust glowing online reviews, please post an honest one on Amazon.

    By Blogger purrlgurrl, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • RRRGroup-

    ..thank you once more for the most timely enlightenment on what-ever-the-hell UFOs/Flying Saucers mean to Terra...

    ....AND, so you are clear on where I am coming from, please allow me to take this opportunity to state openly and for the record that my respect for the work of Professor Anthony Bragalia is ONLY equaled by my respect for the efforts of that Son of Krypton/Starfleet Officer Nicholas Redfern!

    ..trust me..

    By Blogger Kurt Peters, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

  • Anthony needs to realize that as long as he's "the guy that did Chapter 4" he's going to be guilty by association. I'm not really sure what his long term plans or goals are, but it seems more and more like he's content to play second banana; barking from underneath the skirt of whatever entity wants to up their profile by associating with him.

    I promise I'm so vitriolic because I respect the guy so much. His nitinol track is the only truly compelling reverse engineering study to date.

    I just can't wrap my head around his game.

    By Blogger TSH, at Thursday, August 08, 2013  

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