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Wednesday, August 14, 2013

Roswell’s Alien Victims?

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In Making Contact: A Serious Handbook for Locating and Communicating with Extraterrestrials, edited by Bill Fawcett [William Morrow and Company, Inc.,NY, 1997] A chapter entitled Alien First Aid by Mickey Zucker Reichert, M.D. begins with this blurb [Page 316]:

One of the most compelling images in the Roswell Incident is that of a dazed or injured alien sitting next to one that was even more severely hurt. …

The chapter’s text begins:

Believers in the Roswell Incident maintain that two injured humanoid creatures were discovered at the site, one in shock, the other unconscious and leaking fluid that appeared to be blood.

Doctor Reichert continues for several pages to discuss the practice of medicine, how to handle accident victims, and bleeding, among other medicinal issues.

One Page 321 is this:

Because of the Roswell descriptions, I’d like to say a few things about shock …

The unconscious, bleeding alien described by the Roswell Incident advocates would almost certainly also be “in shock.” … The other alien, if not also bleeding, likely suffered from obstructive shock.

Dr. Reichert leaves the Roswell story, with this:

Let’s run through one possible scenario, assuming the alleged crash at Roswell occurred in your own backyard. [Page 322] (I like that he used the word alleged.)

She doesn’t return to the Roswell “facts” enumerated above, but continues to delineate how “Ruth and John” handle CPR and the crash victims that landed in their yard.

Now I ask, where did Dr. Reichart get his “two alien victims” story?

Who said one alien was bleeding? And one was in shock?

The Reichert “information” might come in handy when Kevin Randle’s Roswell Dream Team produces, if it ever does, its discovery of new Roswell evidence.

(By the way, Kevin Randle has a chapter in this book, about Roswell, of course.)



  • The good doctor does not realise that first aid for ETs is very different from first aid for us earthlings. Only a doctor who qualified on the planet of origin of the aliens would be able to administer first aid to them.

    By Blogger cda, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • Well, I did a search for Mickey Zucker Reichert and came up with this on wikipedia:

    "Mickey Zucker Reichert (born as Miriam S. Zucker in 1962[citation needed]) is an American fantasy fiction author[1] of several best selling novels. She is known for her Renshai series, which provides a different perspective on traditional Norse mythology"

    If you read her extensive biography and what books she authored then you get the flavor of...fantasy.

    What about Mickey Zucker Reichert MD? She is the same as the above mentioned author:


    Very similar to the Fred Reagan saga, at least in fiction writing, in my opinion.

    So Dr. Reichert may indeed "know" about providing medical care to ETs since she probably described the treatment protocols in her numerous fantasy themed books.

    Rich, I willing to wager that the good doctor never saw, let alone provided emergency care to an alien.

    I'm betting that she was able to get idea from numerous claims written about Roswell dead/wounded aliens...with no problem.

    And apparently, veracity of the claims were equally of know problem for our good doctor.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • The diagnosis could have been a typo, the correct term might have been obstructive schlock. If there were aliens, if there was a Roswell, if there was shock, if it is an actual image, and so forth and so on.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • It's the certitude with which the passages are offered that troubles, although new Roswell evidence may make the statements, arguably, true, as I understand it.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • RRRGroup -

    ..this latest shocking "North East West South" (NEWS) has caused me to slightly amend my previously claimed Tanstaaflian philosophy with a slight hint of Rodeoclownulist Fellow-travelleristism...

    ...just sayin'....

    By Blogger Kurt Peters, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • The humor, fellows, eludes me.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • Rich, the only certitude is that Dr. Reichert wrote fantasy novels to supplement her medical school costs.

    In your post, you refer the good doctor to he, when it's a she.

    I find it more troubling that people would take her passages seriously.

    As a medical adviser to Randle's Dream Team, she would fit in...

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • I've corrected the he/she thing, Tim.


    (I was being sexist I guess.)

    Such a defnitive take on things not so definitive makes the whole book iffy for me.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • I'm assuming Kurt Peters was referring to the trench warfare going on at Randle's site.

    Both sides are storming across the Roswellian "no man's land." It's like watching a train wreck...horrifying, yet stimulating. :)

    Rudiak has attempted carpet bombing with his numerous multiparted prose. Ghastly...

    You've yet to see the casualties limping back to your site...except CDA.

    I'll say a silent prayer for the skeptics.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • I suspect this post is in fact merely a way of further prodding Randle et al regarding the ever elusive 'new evidence'

    Meanwhile, over at Randle's house of lies and misdirection, yet another verbose restating of the Mogul crapola is on offer.

    Quite why Randle is so eager to appear publicly to still be so entrapped by Mogul fluff, when behind the scenes he deems the matter all but moot.

    By Blogger Ross, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • Ross, et al.

    I am baffled as you are as to why Mr. Randle continues to rehash, ad infinitum,ad eternum, ad nauseum the Mogul crap.

    What's he trying to do?

    is it a diversion? An obsessive or compulsive need?

    That some intelligent skeptics follow along also baffles; Randle behaving like the pied piper of Hamlin and they the -- well you know.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • I've always liked Kevin because he's one of the very few people in "ufology" with a sense of humour. He's also pretty sensible, except when it comes to Roswell and his blind adherence to the ETH.

    My note to his latest Mogul post (which I made at my Facebook page, having no desire to post it at Kevin's blog and get into an argument.

    "Kevin raises a series of points about Mogul, and that's fair enough. But here are two that I would raise about the ET crash 'hypothesis' to which I think he should give equal time:

    1. In 66 years, not a single piece of physical evidence has surfaced to support the contention that an ET spacecraft (or two, depending on who you believe) crashed in New Mexico in early July 1947; and

    2. There is not a single reliable witness to the alleged crash of an ET spacecraft, recovery of bodies, or the subsequent supposed cover-up over six decades. Most of the key ones are either proven liars (Glenn Dennis, Gerald Anderson, Frank Kaufmann, and even the sainted Jesse Marcel, who repeatedly exaggerated his record, which to any reasonable observer calls into question his veracity on other matters), or were too young at the time to be considered reliable decades later (Jesse Marcel, Jr.), or have nothing of substance to offer (Walter Haut, who simply issued a mistaken press release).

    Those are the only two points about Roswell which really matter."

    By Blogger Paul Kimball, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • Kevin is, Paul, a truly nice guy.

    He remained civil with me, even when I've been snotty.

    And he has more good UFO information in his little toe than I and many others have in our whole bodies.

    Yet, he insists upon dredging up Roswell stuff (right now Mogul) that doesn't address the real issues, some of which you have provided.

    I don't know where he's going with the diversions.

    But there could be method in his "madness."

    I just don't see it.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • Six degrees of separation around any topic and Mr Randle, maybe we should thank him for providing a subject, considering the dearth of anything new and somehow he's managed to talk himself right into a tight corner. Maybe he had a standing up nervous breakdown, maybe he might change his name to Kevin Roswell...stayed tuned, if you can stay awake. This is about as exciting as watching grass grow. I might retire from the whole weary , bleached out subject.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Wednesday, August 14, 2013  

  • RR:

    The reason Kevin keeps digging up the Mogul stuff is that if can prove conclusively that Mogul was NOT the cause of the debris discovered on the ranch, he is one small step (very small step) closer to proving an ET craft WAS the cause of the said debris.

    It's a process of elimination. Slowly but surely Randle and his team are getting ever so slightly nearer to proving their thesis.

    At least that is how I see it. We should rejoice in this, not condemn it.

    In case you forget, I speak as an 'expert' in trying to DISPROVE his thesis. Get it?

    By Blogger cda, at Thursday, August 15, 2013  

  • But I have been led to believe, CDA, that The Dream Team has uncovered new Roswell evidence -- evidence that makes Mogul and the debris irrelevant or superfluous.

    (I'm waiting for you skeptical guys to have a go at that.)


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, August 15, 2013  

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