UFO Conjecture(s)

Friday, August 16, 2013

UFOs and Quantum Entanglement

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Wikipedia on Quantum Entanglement – HERE 
That UFOs behave very much like quantum particles – an hypothesis we’ve dealt with early on here, at this blog and our RRRGroup blog – offers the possibility of applying quantum mechanic methodologies to the phenomenon, or its reports, to determine the nature of the things.

During the appearance of multiple UFOs, if the report is extensive and exhaustive (or precise), one skilled in quantum movement and/or measurement, might be able to discern if UFOs act upon quantum principles; that is, do UFOs mimic quantum particles (or waves)?

I am inclined to think they do, after reviewing UFO accounts over the years.

There is also another area that might be explored.

When a UFO sighting or event takes place, is there a concomitant sighting elsewhere at the same time which duplicates, in essential ways, the first sighting under review?

For instance, if a UFO is seen moving erratically in the sky – moving from east to west in a notable way, is there another UFO sighting, anywhere in the world, where a UFO is seen moving in the sky, west to east, at the same time, simultaneously.

Also, if there is one of those queer UFO encounters with beings or an unusual object, can we find another encounter, elsewhere, at the very same time, that duplicates the behavior and features or aspects of the initial reported sighting?

Another take on quantum entanglement – HERE.

Quantum mechanics, as a theory of reality, is tough to understand, and quantum entanglement more so, perhaps.

But if UFO researchers want to be rehabilitated as serious persons with a serious methodology in their arsenal -- ufology – quantum theory should be considered.

RR

13 Comments:

  • Using pragmatic optimism based on science, it seems every week there are more confirmations that while of course not being completely understood quantum behavior is more than a theory in of itself. Quantum encryption, quantum computers, the successful creation of quantum states in the laboratory, etc. Several years ago I did a piece on wave patterns and what could be a quantum observer effect in terms of expectations shared toward a tipping point ( like Princetons experimentations with random number generators and global consciousness) that may create a tipping effect to create macro quantum based states as ( for lack of a better word) projections. The reason I suspect this is look at the social and cultural tracking of the images that parallel technological history, even going so far to project animism, mythical characters long, long ago. Perhaps Fatima. I remember Nick R being interested in this theory some time ago. The advantage is science could take this phenomenon a lot more seriously without the hoo-doo. This is an aspect of this phenomenon I have been writing about for five years or more, so I am glad to see you have considered it as plausible.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

  • RRRGroup -

    ...you need to step slowly away from the remaindered Physics books at your local Barnes and Noble, SIR...

    Here is the unpleasant truth:

    ...we do not have any 'UFOs' to 'research';

    ...we only have 'reports' of UFOS, whatever those are worth...

    By Blogger Kurt Peters, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

  • Spot on, Mr. Peters.

    By Blogger purrlgurrl, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

  • http://thebiggeststudy.blogspot.com/2013/08/nelson-tells-you-second-thing-you-need.html

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

  • I can't really say that there would be a quantum entanglement regarding two, yet separate UFO sightings in opposite sides of the earth.

    Perhaps the "uncertainty principle" of visual observation can be applied to how we mentally observe and measure a visual phenomena such as UFOs. As far as I know, neuroscience has resisted the study of the brain on a quantum level...cellular and molecular level yes.

    Can we assume that there are quantum-like similarities, as far as visual observations, to those who see/experience UFOs/alien abductions? Thus rendering the encounter as believable, yet false on the other hand.

    This would only apply to the bizarre cases, as its very easy to misidentify a light source in the sky and draw the wrong logical/rational conclusions.

    I'm dealing with a similar phenomena in a case that I'm painstaking deconstructing...for the past two months up to this current date. It's tedious work, but the thrust of Rich's theme seems to be playing out.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

  • There was a piece, Tim, in the NYRB about the consternation between psychologists and neurologists; that neurology is stepping into areas that are reserved for psychology: brain (matter) vs mind -- the Cartesian divide.

    This pique my interest.

    As did the letters between Jung and Pauli about the intersecting of physical science attributes and psychological attributes, mostly those of the Jungian kind -- esoteric, unconscious, non-Freudian elements such as the archetypes.

    The complexity of the discussions, alongside the intrinsic complexity of the UFO phenomenon (masked by the superficial approach of ufology) allowed me to consider the quantum thrust put forth here and earlier.

    UFOs and quantum particles have so much in common, as I see it, that it behooved me to pursue the ideas loaded online here, and considered seriously by you and Bruce.

    Our friends, Kurt Peters and PG, allow that we don't have UFOs, just UFO reports.

    But most of science deals with "reports" (of observations, tests, and experiences) supported by mathematical machinations.

    Rarely does science cope with an actual event; not evolution, nor atomic structure, nor brain waves et cetera; science deals with the papers about them by others.

    UFO reports, I suggested, for those who read my copy carefully, called for those reports to be precise, thorough, and exhaustive.

    If they are, then one would have something substantial to work with.

    Also, it might be daunting to find out if a UFO in one place is duplicated in another, simultaneously, but it could be done, if a researcher chose to exert the effort.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

  • I disagree. Most of hard science deals with measurable phenomena.

    It is the soft sciences, behavioral and social sciences (I include cultural anthropology, but not the bone pickers), that deal mainly with reports.

    Even much advanced math has verifiable real world phenomena that prove its hypotheses and equations.

    By Blogger purrlgurrl, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

  • Rich,

    Bruce, he being a Persinger fan, would love this approach as Persinger's Tectonic Strain Theory advocates seismic activity with precursor event formation of luminous objects (EMPs)...UFOs.

    I tried to correlate the 2010 Calexico/Mexicali earthquake to prior UFO reports in the area, but came up empty. Besides, there is too much military and civilian air traffic in that area...San Diego to Yuma or Phoenix with increase risk of mis-identification.

    But, to put the Persinger theory and your thoughts to test, perhaps two simultaneous quake events would shed some answers...if not confuse the issue in it's entirety.

    How often do we have two quake events of such needed magnitude on opposite sides of the globe?

    I may be in the minority here, but I do like this theme as an approach to understanding the issue.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

  • I'm going to address the matter in a short while PG.

    I hope you give me a workover after it appears, and I bet you will.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

  • Tim:

    Several years ago -- actually many years ago -- I worked on, with a few of my RRRGroup guys, at the time, an hypothesis that catastrophes or major events could be predicted.

    We set up a methodology which took such things as mine disasters, earthquakes, airplane crashes, school bus kidnappings (prominent then), and other incidents that had magnitude, extrapolating some of the elements of the "disasters."

    For instance, kind of disaster (earthquake), location, and date.

    We found that if we took an earthquake's happening date, the first EQ, and another one took place, we could predict a third earthquake.

    We noted the date of the first EQ, and then the second EQ, finding the second EQ invariably occurred three or seven days after the first.

    And a third would occur eleven days after the first, at the end of a terminus line exactly twice the distance as that between the first EQ and the second.

    That is, we could draw a line from EQ1 to EQ2, double it and we'd find EQ3, eleven days after the first EQ, in a spot where an EQ took place.

    And yes, we had some success with major fires, or mine disasters, even a school bus kidnapping. (You might recall the major incident that sparked a few others.)

    But we were flummoxed by the gods!

    Once we started to observe or measure the events, they changed.

    The events were altered by our measurement and/or observation(s): the quantum effect.

    Our effort, as simplistic as it was, encouraged me to liken quantum mechanics as a viable theory about how things really are, corrupted by uncertainty, as if the gods (nature) didn't want competition when it came to how life is to be known by humans: The Tower of Babel syndrome.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

  • Neuroscience has not ignored quantum theory, the late Dr Evan Harris Walker, a physicist, among others has explored has explored quantum theory in this regard. He really opened my eyes to quantum processing in terms of neurology. There is an entire area of quantum theory devoted to this.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

  • Rich
    I forgot to mention that the book by Evan that serves as an excellent introduction to quantum neurology is The Physics of Consciousness, Perseus Press: Boston, MA. Published January, 2000.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

  • Thanks Bruce...

    My youngest, Josh, just graduated with degree in Neuroscience and will be working on his graduate degree at U of M.

    Let's hope he thinks quantum theory is a valid adjunct to his chosen discipline.

    (He's one of our Einstein Fellowship people, and a member of the RRRGroup.)

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, August 16, 2013  

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