UFO Conjecture(s)

Wednesday, October 02, 2013

The Secret Life of [UFOs]

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I’m sure most of you have seen Howard Hawks terrific 1951 movie, The Thing from Another World based on the 1938 novella "Who Goes There?" by John W. Campbell (under the pseudonym of Don A. Stuart). 
In the movie, the Thing, the creature, that crashed near the North Pole, was determined to be a vegetable, a kind of carrot as one of the science characters had it.

Peter Tompkins, whom you may know from his book, Secrets of the Great Pyramid, wrote this book with Christopher Bird [Harper & Row, NY, 1973]:

The book presents the idea that plants think and communicate among themselves and with other biological entities, maybe throughout the Universe.

Citing experiments by various persons, Tompkins and Bird, demonstrate that the plant world has, conclusively, been proven to show emotion and a kind of quantum ESP; that is, plants seem to interact with other biological life-forms over vast distances, as predicated by Quantum Mechanics’ theory of immediate replication of quantum particle movement among and between themselves, no matter how far apart they may be – even galactically.

In Chapter Four of the book – Visitors from Space – the interception of signals in 1971 and 1972 from an area of the sky (Ursa Major), by a man (L. George Lawrence) indicated that something was transmitting messages of a kind, which registered by biological detectors rather than radio gear, even though it seems that there is an electromagnetic component to the signals between plants (and other biologic entities or living matter).

Years ago, I saw a Disney show which offered one of the common experiments of researchers: a plant was wired with electrodes and then approached with fire (or a knife to cut away part of it).

The plant “screamed” and recoiled.

That plants thrive or die at the whim of their owners, despite being watered properly or placed in correct lighting, is known by sensitive botanists, amateur and serious alike.

If a plant is housed by ornery people or troublesome types, even nice people with bad animals or a noisy environment, it will suffer “emotionally.”

This deduces, Tompkins and Bird believe, from the almost paranormal essence(s) of a plant’s being, involving ESP-like qualities.

The book is an interesting read, for those not stifled by imaginative conjecturing and far-out, fringe science.

And it leads me to consider the idea, initially hinted at here, that UFOs could be manned by vegetation – plants that have evolved, like The Thing, into ratiocinating creatures with mobility and abilities not unlike that of carbon life humans.

Is such the idea so far-fetched that it can’t be treated as a viable possibility?

I don’t think so.

It would explain many things in UFO lore: the gathering of Earth’s  plant-life by beings allegedly seen debarking flying saucers; it also would support Jose Caravaca’s “external agent” idea (the ESP part); it would resonate with Persinger’s electromagnetic UFO aura; it allows for the non-harmful effects of those sudden UFO turns in flight which would tear a human’s body to shreds; its would explain the many sightings near or involving water; and it would account for the lack of interaction or communication of an overt kind (verbalizations for instance) but explain the often reported mental (mind-to-mind) communications.

So, The Thing from Another World may have been prescient, and the book, Secret Life…a handbook explaining UFO content.



  • "The thing from another world" was (im my memories) one the first S.F. moovie I saw very young, participating to my interrest about UFO and connex phenomenom. *Nostalgic*

    There are some "pulps" and S.F. novels where the "E.T." have vegetable evolution roots -sic-, published ie. in "Amazing Stories", "Astounding Stories" and like.

    A novel of these "pulps" have particularly marked my mind. It "pushed further" the idea of ​​E.T. plant life, and was full of creativity concerning life and intelligence, with a bit of dramatism and poetry. An excellent one imho, because depecting E.T. life with less anthropomorphism than usualy.

    It was Stanley WEINBAUM,The Lotus Eaters, originaly released in Astounding Stories, (April 1935). A fantastic author as there are plenty in S.F.
    Dunno if some followers here have readed this fantastic novel?

    Wikipedia have a synopsis, but better to read the original!




    By Blogger Gilles Fernandez, at Thursday, October 03, 2013  

  • We could fight them off with salad dressing.
    The real issue is the fact that our imaginative projections are ensconced from within a gold fish bowl so most of our concepts mimic what we see around us.
    There is the matter of photosynthesis as well as nutrients from soil, and of course there are spores, seeds that act as locomotion versus legs etc for reproduction.
    All of this is based on our own carbon based evolutionary system, which might not be true elsewhere.
    Nature being a great experimenter demonstrating an ability to innovate in disparate environments..so it stands to reason that salad tongs might be called for.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Thursday, October 03, 2013  

  • Interestingly, a few years ago I did a huge amount of research into the alleged UFO crash at Kingman, Arizona in 1953.

    The story surfaced via Ray Palmer, who gave the initial witness the pseudonym of "Fritz Werner."

    His real name, however, was Arthur Stansel. I did a LOT of research into Stansel and found that one of the things he had undertaken research into was psychic phenomena in plants, such as the ability to contact each other, and sense an outside threat etc.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Thursday, October 03, 2013  

  • I meant Ray Fowler not Ray Palmer LOL

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Thursday, October 03, 2013  

  • Nick...

    Do I need to add you to the UFO geezer category?


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, October 03, 2013  

  • hahaha, no! I'm juggling too much stuff at one time!

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Thursday, October 03, 2013  

  • Sorry, but the ultimate rutabaga invaders appeared in Invasion of the Body Snatchers. If you ignore the remake with Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig, this is the most gripping "don't-trust-the-eggplant" tale of them all. As evidence; it was remade three times and only the last version was a turkey, but still made a lot of money.

    Oh, and let's not forget Day of the Triffids (a couple of remakes here), with its ambulating carnivorous alien sunflowers taken from John Wyndham's book.

    By the way, John Carpenter's 1980s version of The Thing is actually a superior film, one of the rare cases where the remake outclasses the original.

    Alas, now you know one of my other great passions is movies.

    My point, there's nothing new or innovative about the idea of sentient vegetables. They've been a SciFi mainstay in movies and the books/stories on which they were based for decades. It's an idea still inside the box.

    By Blogger purrlgurrl, at Thursday, October 03, 2013  

  • PG, you write:

    "By the way, John Carpenter's 1980s version of The Thing is actually a superior film, one of the rare cases where the remake outclasses the original."

    I'll arm-wrestle you about that!

    The Hawks film is much. much better as a cineast will attest.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, October 03, 2013  

  • ...the first act of the Hawks flick has a most marvelous portrayal of a Saucer/UFO crash discovery...

    By Blogger Kurt Peters, at Friday, October 04, 2013  

  • "My point, there's nothing new or innovative about the idea of sentient vegetables. They've been a SciFi mainstay in movies and the books/stories on which they were based for decades."

    ... I didn't realize that this was a forum for Patrick Stewart bashing...

    By Blogger Kurt Peters, at Friday, October 04, 2013  

  • Does this mean that the ufo-landing cases with 'physical trace evidence' via form of sick and or, dead vegetation are a clear indication of 'Alien Hostility' toward the indigenous population of planet Earth?


    By Blogger alex cunliffe, at Friday, October 04, 2013  

  • Alien plant life is as old as science fiction: in Florence Carpenter Dieudonne's 'Rondah; Or, Thirty-Three Years In A Star', published in 1887, the protagonists are transported from an Adirondack mountain summit in a spacecraft propelled by an explosion to a planet which has only partly cooled.

    The planet's most notable inhabitants are bird people of vegetable origin who are born in enormous pods.

    Best regards,


    By Blogger theo paijmans, at Friday, October 04, 2013  

  • Thanks, Theo...

    The vegetable slant is intriguing, and has been for a while, as you note.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, October 04, 2013  

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