UFO Conjecture(s)

Tuesday, October 01, 2013

UFOs: Death and Murder?

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The strange death/suicide in 1949, two years after Roswell, of James Forrestal, President Truman’s Secretary of the Navy and Defense has, for a long time, been troublesome for me.

You can read about Mr. Forrestal’s death at Wikipedia:

M. K. Jessup’s suicide also raises issues for some, me included.

Jessup attempted to make a living writing on the subject of UFOs, but his follow-up books did not sell well and his publisher rejected several other manuscripts. In 1958 his wife left him, and his friends described him as being somewhat unstable when he traveled to New York. After returning to Florida, he was involved in a serious car accident and was slow to recover, apparently increasing his despondency. On April 19, 1959, Jessup contacted Dr. Manson Valentine and arranged to meet with him the next day, claiming to have made a breakthrough regarding an event known as the Philadelphia Experiment. However, on April 20, 1959, Jessup was found dead in Dade County, Florida, with a hose between the exhaust pipe and a rear window of the vehicle, filling the car with toxic exhaust fumes. The death was ruled a suicide. Some people believed that "The circumstances of Jessup's apparent suicide remain mysterious" and conspiracy theorists contended that it was connected to his knowledge of the "Philadelphia Experiment". Although some friends claimed that he possibly had been driven to suicide by the "Allende Case," other friends said that an extremely depressed Jessup had been discussing suicide with his friends for several months before his act. [From Wikipedia]

But James McDonald’s suicide, while tragic, is understood, by me, as a way out of a life that went haywire:

In March, 1971, McDonald's wife Betsy told him she wanted a divorce. McDonald seems to have started planning his suicide not long afterwards.

He finished a few articles he was writing (UFO-related and otherwise), and made plans for the storage of his notes, papers, and research. In April 1971 he attempted suicide by shooting himself in the head. He survived, but was blinded and was wheelchair bound. For a short period, McDonald was committed to the psychiatric ward of a Tucson, Arizona hospital. He recovered a degree of peripheral vision, and made plans to return to his teaching position. However, on June 13, 1971, a family, walking along a creek close to the bridge spanning the Canada Del Oro Wash near Tucson, found a body that was later identified as McDonald's. A .38 caliber revolver was found close to him, as well as a suicide note. [From Wikipedia]

The one death that strikes me as odd and out of place is that of Edward Ruppelt, the one-time head of Project Blue Book.

Edward Ruppelt died of a heart attack on September 15, 1960, at the age of 37.

Does it make sense that a thirty-seven year old military man, who was subject to regular check ups, would die suddenly of a heart attack?

President Eisenhower, in the same time-frame, had a number of heart attacks, all caught in time by Walter Reed Hospital’s eminent staff.

Was Ruppelt silenced, before going rogue about UFOs?

This (from Wikipedia) shows that he had intent to do so:

In 1960 the expanded edition of Ruppelt's book (20 Chapters) was published by Doubleday & Co.. The only change from earlier editions came in three more chapters which largely echoed the Air Force's position that there was nothing unusual about UFOs. Ruppelt seemed to have abandoned his early views that some UFO reports seemed mysterious and unexplained, and he declared UFOs a "space age myth". In an unusual manner, the date of the publication was omitted. The book, with the 1956 copyright note and the 1955 date of Ruppelt's Foreword, made the new edition appear to be the original edition. Only the dust jacket gives any hint that this is the second edition of the previous book.

"There is now a way to simulate a real heart attack. It can be used as a means of assassination." Only a very skilled pathologist, who knew exactly what to look for at an autopsy, could distinguish this from the real thing. [The New Order of Barbarians]

I’m not conspiratorially-oriented, generally, but anything, as we all now know from recent events and secrets uncovered, is possible.



  • Forrestal is covered in the MJ-12 documents.

    By Blogger Ross, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • Suicides always leave questions in their wake. High profile individuals are no exception to this.

    McDonald did not recover from being humiliated before Congress, then the divorce.

    Unanticipated heart attacks happen even when an individual receives check ups..that is what led to my son's death three years ago.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • Hi Rich.

    I've been labled a few things, including conspiracy nut. At this point I don't care. At least in regards to Secretary Forrestal there are indeed many clues that should make one ponder the possibilities...and not because of any "MJ12 documents."

    I spent quite a bit of time reading background material to see if there was anything there. What I found surprised me.

    For one thing, his whole Melancholia episode began on the night he received his going away award from Truman. On the way out, his aide was asked to leave him, by his former long-time friend, AF Secretary Symington.

    Symington got in the back seat of Forrestal's staff car, to be alone with the Secretary, because of something important he needed to discuss with Forrestal. It seemed urgent.

    No one knows what they "discussed," but Forrestal turned up, essentially, missing...for some time.

    He was eventually located at his old office, by his personal aide -I'm pretty sure that was who found him-- at any rate, he was sitting in a chair, trance-like, staring at a blank wall, with his hat still in his hand.

    He was never the same.

    There is much more than that, but I think that is enough to cause concern, considering what happened from then on.


    By Blogger Bob Koford, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • I'm convinced, Bob, that Forrestal was murdered.

    Why? Who knows, and who will tell?

    His death -- regardless of how it came about -- remains a shameful episode in this country's history.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • The Symington/Forrestal encounter is interesting, if true, especially when Symington was also allegedly associated with the "leak" of the Roswell crash information to John F. Kennedy in 1947. That according to the infamous IPU Report of 1960.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • Dominick...do you mean Joseph Kennedy?

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • Somewhere I read, in a NICAP newsletter of long ago, a letter Keyhoe had from Ruppelt a few months before his death in which Ruppelt told Keyhoe that he had had a heart attack. In other words, his fatal attack was not 'out of the blue'.

    Recall that Ruppelt had left the AF 6 or 7 years before his death, so might not have had the regular check-ups you suggest.

    By Blogger cda, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • How about this Christopher, from Wikipedia:

    Agents of the Bulgarian secret police (Darzhavna Sigurnost; Bulgarian: Държавна сигурност, abbreviated ДС), assisted by the KGB, had previously made two failed attempts to kill Markov before a third attempt succeeded. On September 7, 1978 (the 67th birthday of Todor Zhivkov), Markov walked across Waterloo Bridge spanning the River Thames, and waited at a bus stop to take a bus to his job at the BBC. He felt a slight sharp pain, as a bug bite or sting, on the back of his right thigh. He looked behind him and saw a man picking up an umbrella off the ground. The man hurriedly crossed to the other side of the street and got in a taxi which then drove away. The event is recalled as the "Umbrella Murder" with the assassin claimed to be Francesco Gullino, codenamed "Piccadilly".

    Was that earlier Ruppelt "heart attack" a failed attempt?

    I know, it's a stretch, however...


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • No, Rich, it was JFK, then a newly elected Congressman from Massachusetts. Here is the relevant section from the IPU Report where the author is discussing whether there has been any breach in security vis-a-vis the crashed object:

    "10. With the pending approval of JAMES FORRESTAL as new
    S e c r e t a r y of Defense, i t is c e r t a i n t h a t he w i l l be briefed on c e r t a in
    aspects of the d i s c o v e r i e s . The only Cabinet member to date t h a t may
    know of the d e t a i l s i s Secretary of S t a t e Marshall. I t has become known
    t o CIC t h a t some of the recovery operation was shared with Representative
    JOHN F. KENNEDY, Massachusetts Democrat elected to congress i n 46. Son of

    By Blogger Dominick, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • Forrestal had made previous suicide attempts. He was admitted to hospital for psychiatric treatment.

    The information comes from a website called arlingtoncemetery.net.

    For heavens sake give up this 'murder' idea. Either that or produce some real evidence pointing to murder.

    By Blogger cda, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • I suppose, if you are conspiracy minded enough, ANY early death could be put down to murder. What about sportsmen, entertainers and others who have 'mysteriously' died when performing their acts.

    What about Diana, what about Dorothy Kilgallen (ask Nick Redfern about her)?

    No, I do not believe Ruppelt was murdered, nor that he suffered a simulated heart attack.

    But did you notice how he never mentioned Roswell in his book? Now there is something to this omission, isn't there?

    Alternatively, perhaps some guy in Northrop Aircraft (his employers) did him in, out of jealousy.

    See the Hall-Connors book for the Ruppelt 'story'.

    By Blogger cda, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • It's only conjecture, CDA.

    Conjecture that has appeared in the past and still seems reasonable to consider, now that we know what devious things have happened by or at the direction of government agencies, not just the C.I.A.

    Are there secrets so important that silencing those who may divulge them is not out of the question as one who is not naive knows?

    I'll provide back-up, if I can get away from the Dream Team brouhaha.

    It seems that Kevin Randle is going to address the recent dust-up on Dark Matters tonight [10/1/13]with Don Ecker.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • What Kevin has to say just extends this soap opera, like the political raps we are being subjected to without much happening beyond talk and spinning. Wake me up when its over...

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • For reference, as per my comment: Driven Patriot, by Townsend Hoopes and Douglas Brinkely

    By Blogger Bob Koford, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • Thanks. Bob...


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, October 01, 2013  

  • RRRGroup-

    "It seems that Kevin Randle is going to address the recent dust-up on Dark Matters tonight [10/1/13]with Don Ecker."

    ...I think that you are looking at an available repeat download of a 2010 interview with Randle; it seems that Ecker's site defaults to past 2010 shows, which is typical of the quality control evident in the field...

    (I was convinced that Randle would never go public now after Kimball's unhappy outing....)

    By Blogger Kurt Peters, at Wednesday, October 02, 2013  

  • Yah, KP, I couldn't find it either; those internet radio-casts so difficult to access.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, October 02, 2013  

  • From what I read, it seems doubts (suicide, or homicide?) about Forrestal's death go way back.

    They apparently precede, by decades, declassification (in 1990's) of CIA how-to 'covert' assassination manual cited as far back as 1954 (in Agency pubs). Disclosure: I first learned of this from inquiries into the (comparably?) suspicious case of Frank Olson's death.

    In connection with questions or suspicions a la Forrestal - has anyone here mentioned the following text, verbatim, methodology for staging a 'suicide' or 'accidental' death?

    "For secret assassination .. the contrived accident is the most effective technique. When successfully executed, it ... is only casually investigated. The most efficient accident ... is a fall of 75 feet or more onto a hard surface. Elevator shafts, stairwells, unscreened windows and bridges will serve."

    Considering Forrestal's death was 2 years after the Nat'l Security Act (Agency already constituted, in operation) - and suspicions long extant before this formerly classified info fell into our hands, i.e. the public - doubt and uncertainty don't strike me as very unreasonable or unwarranted.

    (Especially reading more about the Olson death, eliciting unsettling sense of possible comparisons, on impression)

    By Blogger Brian Akers, at Wednesday, October 02, 2013  

  • > Does it make sense that a thirty-seven year old military man, who was subject to regular check ups, would die suddenly of a heart attack?

    Did it make sense that 33-year-old Darryl Kile, a major league pitcher, who underwent yearly physicals, died of a heart attack? Yes, as his father had also died of one at age 44.


    By Blogger Terry the Censor, at Wednesday, October 02, 2013  

  • [forgot to copy and paste this line]

    Has anyone ever looked at Ruppelt's medical history? That would be more productive than speculating about UFO silencers.

    By Blogger Terry the Censor, at Wednesday, October 02, 2013  

  • CDA wrote: "Somewhere I read, in a NICAP newsletter of long ago ... Ruppelt told Keyhoe that he had had a heart attack"

    You're right. Some of Ruppelt's letters were printed in the October 1961 issue of NICAP's UFO Investigator.

    "I seriously doubt, Don, if I can accept your offer of a spot as a special adviser. It sounds very interesting and I consider it an honor, but I'm afraid I'll have to pass. I've been trying to cut down on the work I'm doing, although
    heart-attack wise, I'm completely O.K. I just don't want to repeat it."


    By Blogger Terry the Censor, at Wednesday, October 02, 2013  

  • Terry:

    I scoured various venues for Ruppelt's medical records: nada.

    One can attribute Ruppelt's heart attack to an unfortunate medical malady, which makes sense.

    However, that doesn't mitigate the possibility that mischief was afoot in his demise.

    Dark matters do occur, and one can't dismiss a bad thing because it has normal or usual fore-runners, those fore-runners used as a cover for evil deeds.

    Such things happen, and Ruppelt was acting rogue, which, surely, could have made the wrong kind of person(s) nervous.

    Just a conjecture....nothing more.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, October 02, 2013  

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