posted by RRRGroup at
Monday, December 23, 2013
Whilst not wishing in any way to denigrate this royal pardon, I do wonder if in this case certain influential people have gone over the top viz-a-viz Alan Turing. We read that he committed these offences with "another man". OK, so why has this other man not been given a royal pardon too? Why have not the umpteen thousands of other gays who were convicted during these years not been treated likewise? Purely, I suggest, because their names are largely forgotten or unknown.The very person (in the UK) whose gay 'crimes' led to a Royal Commission on homosexuality, and eventually to a change in the law, was Lord Montagu of Beaulieu (together with two other men of standing). It was a very high profile case in 1954. So why has not Lord M been given a royal pardon? Unlike Turing, he underwent a 12-month jail sentence as well. Turing was given the option of either jail or hormone treatment. Lord M was not. Going further back in time, why no pardon for Oscar Wilde?It smacks of a kind of hypocrisy. It is not a subject I want to bring up or discuss at all - at least not on this blog. Alan Turing was a great mathematician. Agreed, but is there not a sense of injustice here, not in his original conviction but in the singling out of just one man, however much he did for the WW2 effort, for a royal pardon? Please excuse this rant.Happy Christmas!
By cda, at Tuesday, December 24, 2013
Ah, CDA...If your queen pardoned all the Brit homosexuals over the years, she's be signing papers now until doomsday.I have a blog and group The Wilde Society that tries to ameliorate the injustice(s) to poor Oscar.Turing gets my nod because of his computing genius and work during WWII (and because of the excruciating treatments he was subjected to, to "cure" his homosexuality.There are others: Marlowe, Shakespeare, Britten...oh the list is interminable...That some men got no pardons goes to your note that they are little known or without significant achievement.That's the way of things.Turing deserved to be pardoned, for a number of reasons, as you know, better than most.And, you my dear friend, have a Merry, merry Christmas, with some plum pudding to calm your nerves.RR
By RRRGroup, at Tuesday, December 24, 2013
He is certainly a high-profile individual known to many around the world, so in a sense his posthumous pardon is a mea culpa for them all. As RR points out, HRH can't be signing documents until the cows come home. So, I think his pardon, while particular, is also meant in general: we screwed up royally.
By Cullan Hudson, at Tuesday, December 24, 2013
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