UFO Conjectures

Sunday, June 09, 2013

The Ron Hill Sighting with Alien Photograph


An alleged UFO sighting and landing by a fourteen year old boy [Ron Hill] who took a photograph of an alien who debarked from the UFO (spherical craft) on July 21, 1967 is recounted best here:

The Iron Skeptic

Not only does the photograph fascinate but the similarity to the Flatwoods Monster sighting on September 12th, 1952 also fascinates.


Did young Ron Hill create (fake) his photograph based upon what he had read about the Flatwoods creature?

Or did young Ron Hill actually capture a "real" Flatwoods being all his own?

Nick Redfern conjectures that the Flatwoods Monster may have been a military psy-operation. (His suggestion appears here in an earlier post and also at his web-site).

What's your take?


UFOs and String Theory [Redux -- to take your minds off Roswell/Aztec]


UFOs have more of a reality than “strings” – the basic elements (building blocks) of existence according to some physicists.

Lee Smolin, in his book “The Trouble with Physics” [Houghton Mifflin, 2006], argues against the obsession that most physicists, academic researchers, and scientific facilities have with string theory.

(Wikipedia provides a succinct overview of the discursive theory at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory for those who aren’t familiar with the concept.)

The problem with string theory is that no one can confirm by tests or experimentation the existence of strings, a dilemma similar to that for UFOs.

There is a difference however, and it’s this: UFOs have a tangibility, a record of being there (or here), whereas strings have no record – nada, nil, zilch.

Yes, UFOs exist and have existed for some recorded time. What they are remains a mystery. Those who “study” them – so-called ufologists – have botched the scrutiny of the enigma by ineptness and hubris (traits that also apply to many physicists if we read Smolin correctly).

UFOs , as a mythology and a reality, are dissipating as a major concern, for the militaries of the world, governments, or the public at large, because they’ve been spotted and photographed (perhaps) but have yet to show any profound malevolence or any practical worth as a phenomenon (except to UFO mavens who remain gaga by the idea of UFOs).

String theory may or may not be bogus. UFOs are not bogus, but they aren’t part and parcel of anyone’s life, unless persons have made them so (which is a sad commentary on the purposeless existentialism of some folks).

String theory is fun to contemplate. UFOs also. But that’s all either of the concepts are.


Aztec is Roswell: Photo Evidence

Copyright 2013, InterAmerica, Inc.
The Scully story of an Aztec flying saucer “landing” (accident) in Behind the Flying Saucers was actually a recounting of the Roswell incident in 1947, but that was unbeknownst to Frank Scully when he was told the story – as I’ve outlined in a previous post.

Alleged photos of alien bodies have circulated widely.

This in material about Wilbert Smith from:

In the rest of the interview Wilbert Smith discusses what the aliens look like, the effect of the extraterrestrial idea on religion, secrecy, and a number of other topics. It should be noted in the interview that Wilbert Smith never used the word UFO. This is because from the very beginning Smith was aware that the phenomena was extraterrestrial, and that UFO was a word developed by the U.S.A.F. in 1952 to muddy the waters for investigators. According to Smith’s son Jim Smith, shortly before his death in 1962 Wilbert called his son in, and told him that he had in fact seen the alien bodies from a crash, and had been shown a crashed flying saucer outside of Washington D.C., while conducting the official Canadian investigation.

And this about Wilbert’s son, Jim from:

According to his son Jim, Wilbert Smith was not entirely discarded by all the forces of Government. Some shadow elements kept in touch with him and often employed him in their covert UFO-based endevours; this included several “Roswells” (See: http://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2008/03/roswells-galore.html) and Jim, in the same way as Jesse Marcel Jr, once handled a part of the wreckage of a crashed UFO, the “Ottawa Piece”. Smith also dealt with the bodies of aliens from the crashes too.

And Alice Scully is reported to have seen photos of alien bodies (which she, like her husband, thought were from an the purported Aztec crash of 1948).

Scully reported that the Air Force had taken film of the crashed saucer (in Aztec) on Page 43 of his book, the paperback edition.

Now a new set of photos has surfaced, taken, surreptitiously by a geologist who, with geological team members, stumbled upon an Army mop-up of an “accident” north of Roswell in July 1947.

That geologist went to work of Silas Newton, to whom he showed the photos, and who either concocted the questionable fraud scheme he and Leo GeBauer were indicted for, using Aztec as the site of the photos or who created the Aztec story as a deflection from Roswell, at the insistence of the Air Force with whom he had collaborations.

(The latter is what I surmised really happened and the Air Force sank Newton and GeBauer to keep hidden the Roswell-by-way-of-Aztec secret(s).

Do the photos prove conclusively that some alien/extraterrestrial bodies where seen outside of Roswell in 1947 and photos were taken of it or them?

The photos seem to have a proven provenance of 1947.

The geologist was in the Roswell area in July 1947, with other geologists.

That geologist did go to work for Silas Newton.

And credible people have seen the photos, then and now.

Once all the “facts” are in, you should be able to see the “Aztec is Roswell” scenario more clearly.

For now, the matter rests with those who discovered that some interesting photos have been found, in a place and with people connected to Roswell and Silas Newton.

It’s now up to them to flesh out the story for the UFO community – before the general public gets their hands on the tale and makes hash of it, not knowing the subtle vicissitudes of both the Roswell and Aztec accounts.