The UFO Iconoclast(s)

Wednesday, March 26, 2014

Where are the flying saucer “fossils”?

The Alien Astronaut theorists and a few UFO quidnuncs tell us that flying saucers or UFOs have been visiting the Earth for thousands, maybe millions of years.

And some UFO buffs insist that flying saucer or UFO crashes have been almost epidemic since 1947, those crashes covered up by government militaries.

But let me address the many-year visiting UFOs/saucers.

If craft from somewhere else has been visiting the Earth for millennia, and their current configurations are crash prone (Aurora, Roswell, Aztec, Kecksburg, et cetera), why has no one ever discovered the remnants of a crashed saucer/UFO anywhere on Earth, before the cover-up era?

Why haven’t explorers stumbled upon a metallic or solid substance entity that would be identifiable as an odd construct, out of place or time?

Explorers and paleontologists have come upon odd things in the sands, mountains, jungles, snow fields of Earth and placed those finds in museums or noted them in journals.

But no one, ever, has described a flying saucer “fossil.”

Yes, the AA theorists will point to things like the Palenque sarcophagus lid as indication of an alien space craft, but that interpretation is iffy, and no craft is represented or was found among the areas other archaeological debris fields.

Stanley or Livingston never found anything in Africa that could be identified as a vehicle or airborne craft.

Nor did Marco Polo in China, or Herodotus in and around the Mediterranean.

Lewis and Clark didn’t come upon a downed saucer or anything like one.

No one ever found the remains of the supposed Airships of the 1890s, although those alleged crafts were reportedly (by witnesses) to be accident-prone or had troubled flights.

No Egyptian hieroglyph depicts a downed saucer.

But then, in the modern era, writers, such as Kevin Randle, tell us that flying saucers have crashed all over the place, only to be smothered by government interference and secrecy.

But before this paranoid era – back in the good ol’ days of unfettered discovery – no noted explorer or romantic traveler to far off, unknown realms ever wrote or said they had discovered an out of place, odd artifact that one could discern, today, as a crashed flying disk.

Dinosaur fossils have shown up everywhere. But nothing like a downed UFO.

What does that tell us?

That the whole flying saucer thing is hooey, or UFOs are a phenomenon without substance, the creatures of myth – evanescent and without substance, then and now.


RR

10 Comments:

  • Surely you know Stanton Friedman's theorem - "Absence of evidence is NOT the same as evidence of absence". Every boy learns this in elementary school.

    Nothing more need be said.

    By Blogger cda, at Wednesday, March 26, 2014  

  • That Friedman drives me nuts.

    He's at the edge of right or truth but not fully immersed I'm afraid.

    But I like him, even when he's dotty.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, March 26, 2014  

  • How often do you think we were visited, and how often do you think craft crashed without being recovered, that there should be so many "fossil flying saucer" strewn about and so easily found? Very little land has been excavated in search of anything (dinosaurs, human ancestors, etc.) so the chances are extremely slim that you'd find a fossil saucer.

    Consider that until 2005 we had never even discovered a fossil chimpanzee, and that's after digging for decades in areas where they were expected to have lived:

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0831_050831_chimp_teeth.html

    By Blogger Miserere, at Saturday, March 29, 2014  

  • M:

    Prominent ufologists keep telling us that flying saucers or UFOs have crashed all over the place, in the modern era, covered up by government agencies.

    One would conclude that the earlier generation of saucers or UFOs would have crashed even in larger numbers, being a newer technology.

    But no one has ever come across one, anywhere.

    One would think that a saucer would have crashed in a non-remote area at some point.

    And someone would have stumbled upon it, somewhere.

    But that's not the case, is it?

    A chimpanzee fossil would be much harder to discover, whereas a substantive vehicle (made of metal supposedly) would be much easier to find as it would stand out.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, March 29, 2014  

  • Hooey is overstated, I certainly hope.

    A single clear daylight sighting still holds my interest 30+ years later -and brought me here.

    That there are many unknowns is clear. Dark matter, dark energy, multi-dimensions, multiverses and such give ample "space" to shy away from declaring hooey.

    Respecting what we don't know is a far better stance. Searching for crashed mechanical saucers may well be a fruitless endeavor especially if what we seek relates to unknowns mentioned above.

    Give me a break on this one, RR.

    BD

    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Sunday, March 30, 2014  

  • Maybe they use biodegradable parts?

    By Blogger AudioMonk, at Monday, March 31, 2014  

  • You may be trying to be funny Audio, but you also may be on to something.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, March 31, 2014  

  • Rich, I'll backpack off of Audio's comment. This was proposed some while back (I forgot the author), but supposed that "ancient" UFOs were built of living biological matter? This would result in any crash bio-saucer to decompose over time.

    The only problem with my scenario is that based on today's proposed UFO's being made of strange exotic metals then this would, in my opinion, represent a technological step backwards for ET, as the bio-craft would have been the most technological "upgrade".

    I know, strange coming from me, but I have my moments of fantasy:)

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Monday, March 31, 2014  

  • RR,

    Prominent ufologists keep telling us that flying saucers or UFOs have crashed all over the place, in the modern era, covered up by government agencies.

    Doesn't mean we all believe that to be the case (crashing all over the place). Maybe it's just one. Or maybe it's none. At this point, I doubt we'll ever know for sure.

    One would conclude that the earlier generation of saucers or UFOs would have crashed even in larger numbers, being a newer technology.

    Not necessarily. Imagine they've been a space-faring race for 1 million years; do you think designs from even 10,000 years ago are so much worse than current designs? Consider they would've spent 999,990 years perfecting their ships. I contend that in this case there would be negligible if any quality difference between earlier and newer ships, so your reasoning doesn't necessarily follow. Of course, they could be an 11,000 year-old space-faring race, so a ship made 10,000 ago might well not be a perfected design. Then again, they could have been flying around the Universe for 100 million years. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying you're not necessarily right.

    But no one has ever come across one, anywhere.

    One would think that a saucer would have crashed in a non-remote area at some point.

    And someone would have stumbled upon it, somewhere.

    But that's not the case, is it?


    You're thinking of this in terms of the lottery. Chances are slim that you'll win the lottery, but someone has to win it, somewhere. I think the odds of finding a fossil saucer are smaller than those of winning the lottery, and even the lottery sometimes goes without winners. And as I mentioned in my previous e-mail, why assume a downed saucer that isn't recovered by earthlings wouldn't be recovered by their own people? Maybe they all were. Maybe in 1947 (or whenever) by the time the distress call reached home-planet and a S&R team made it out to Roswell the crashed saucer was long gone, taken by the military, and they couldn't recover that one. Maybe they bemoaned the good ol' days when they could show up a few years later and still find a crashed saucer where it had crashed, just having to shoo out the family of dinosaurs, bears or stupid hairless bipeds that had been sheltering under the wreckage. Or maybe, there are a few downed saucers out there, waiting under tens or hundreds of meters of soil, sedimented on them over the millennia, which means we're looking (actually, nobody's looking) for a needle in haystack.

    A chimpanzee fossil would be much harder to discover, whereas a substantive vehicle (made of metal supposedly) would be much easier to find as it would stand out.

    True that. You'd also expect metal capable of withstanding space travel to disintegrate a great deal slower than bone :-)

    By Blogger Miserere, at Monday, March 31, 2014  

  • Perhaps there have been crashes but in times when we inhabited fewer parts of the Earth and were less equipped to closely monitor our surroundings they were able to clean up after themselves.

    By Blogger Dan, at Wednesday, April 02, 2014  

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