UFO Conjecture(s)

Saturday, June 21, 2014

Uri Geller and the Roswell Memory Metal

Our colleague, UFO researcher Jose Antonio Caravaca, talked with Israeli conjuror Uri Geller, who was involved, allegedly, with the Battelle people about the Roswell memory metal, as Anthony Bragalia has reported here.

Jose Caravaca provided this to us about his recent conversation with Geller:


Uri Geller was subjected to a series of experiments within the "Naval Surface Weapons Center on 29 October 1973 and October 1974, with the intention of studying his “psychic powers”. The manager of the project was Dr. Eldon Byrd. One test was performed with a metallic material of last generation, the NITINOL. Curiously according to an official document declassified in 2009 (FOIA), from the Wright-Patterson AFB, where according to most researchers were sent the remains found in Roswell, it was requested, in 1949, the "Battelle Memorial Institute," a private institution dedicated to the scientific study of technology, research and develop materials with molecular memory, one of the most characteristic features described by all witnesses who have had access to foreign material recovered at Roswell (1947).

Experiments of nitinol under the "psychic influence" would have been carried out in the area of the Office of Naval Research (ONR) involving scientists as Fred Wang and Howard Cross. Years later, Commander George Hoover confirmed that the U.S. Navy had been dedicated to reverse engineering using for that material obtained in Roswell. He also said realized experiments in psychical research collaborated Dr. Fred Wang and meanwhile, another involved Dr. Howard Cross participated in the '50s in the official investigation of UFOs the U.S. government. In an interview in 1990, General Arthur Exon, who was stationed in 1960 at Wright-Patterson AFB confirmed the existence of the confidential reports on the Roswell metal. Exon told that he was aware of some of the details on the composition of the remains of the UFO / Crash and variety of tests that are conducted on them, and that such research resulted the nitinol. In addition another involved in the development of nitinol, but only appears in the titles of the declassified document, Elroy John Center said in 1992 that in the sixties have worked with the remains of the UFO crash in Roswell ...

Uri Geller after 41 years remembers the strange events ocurred in Naval Surface Weapons Center. The famous mentalist recalls the participation of at least two scientists accompanying Dr. Eldon Byrd and that one of them had an oriental name. About the nitinol, Byrd said that "it was spacecraft technology, some kind of extraterrestrial technology" ... to the surprise of Geller, who did not quite believe in this information, Byrd adds: "this technology was found in a spaceship." Uri Geller said they did not tell the whole truth about the series of experiments conducted that day, and perhaps the CIA was involved. Between questions put to him, he asked if it was possible to “fly an aircraft with the power of the mind” ... And apparently according to some researchers, the military were fascinated by the possibility that the crew of the Roswell UFO could control with their minds some devices of the aircraft. Geller also noted that their participation was a section more the psychic research were being conducted in that military institution.

Uri Geller knew that the NITINOL was being developed by the "" Battelle Memorial Institute. "


  • Sorry, this scenario has enough holes in it to be Swiss Cheese.
    A malleable alloy under psychic influence does not a control system make and this is an enormous leap of faith that extends conductance to a closed loop circuitry. As if a wire in of itself could provide control of routing, etc. As a wireless receiver of signal telemetry any use would require the amplification of the body’s extremely weak electrical field that is not stable anyway.
    Where is the shielding? Bending a spoon does not route a circuit. If it does, how?
    Again it’s a vague inference that a structural component as it was originally described is inferred as a benefit to the framework of a spacecraft without explanation. Now it’s been altered into a control system. Is this in addition to the original claim or an addition?
    Why does Uri speak with impunity? Id like to hear an explanation.
    Again we go back to Roswell and this is yet akin to the elaborate open ended rumors surrounding the Dulce Air Force base. At the core is that such a hypothetical craft would require entering the atmosphere to observe instead of doing what we can already do. How does a spacecraft crash due to static electricity when it is built to withstand highly radiant energy, micrometeorites etc? On both counts its not making sense.
    If Uri is employed by the CIA as he has claimed in the past, why is this scenario any more verifiable than the past and admitted manipulations of this subject in the past?
    More questions than answers unless you consider a vague outline an explanation.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Saturday, June 21, 2014  

  • Bruce-

    Uri was indeed tested by Eldon Byrd and Fred Wang (the 'co-inventor' of Nitinol) to Uri morph the metal with his mind. I have reported on this in a prior article. Uri was successful in bending the metal psychokinetically. Shape Memory Alloys, as intelligent materials, apparently respond to the influence of mind.


    By Blogger Anthony Bragalia, at Saturday, June 21, 2014  

  • Bruce,
    I understand what you're asking, but some of your questions could not possibly be answered- most likely not even by engineers who have examined the craft (if there is such a craft). We cannot possibly know how their technology works.

    This relates to the stories that the alien craft lacked a power plant or any moving parts- and this lead them to believe it was controlled through some kind of telekinesis or other mental power. None of which have been proven to actually exist.
    But I can see why they may have had an interest in the subject. They were obviously following through with some far-fetched theories. If this story is true.
    Someone should follow up with Uri and find out more and see if they can truly validate the claims.

    By Blogger Daniel Hurd, at Saturday, June 21, 2014  

  • Rich, I thought you were against the idea of Roswell memory metal?
    I know you're just reporting this story- but I get the impression the memory metal aspect still interests you.

    By Blogger Daniel Hurd, at Saturday, June 21, 2014  

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    By Blogger Kurt Peters, at Saturday, June 21, 2014  

  • Daniel,

    I'm interested in everything, goofy or not.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, June 21, 2014  

  • Sorry Tony
    We perhaps agree to disagree. No ranting on my part. Its not that interesting to me. It strikes me as a turgid scenario that is mildly irksome while harmless.
    I am not buying it as either verifiable gossip or a rumor or even to be so dim as to categorize it as a hypothetical as you write this as gospel.
    For me it boils down to a lack of meat on the bones of these "facts"
    It gives the impression of an overarching willingness to create impressions rather than coherency whose gaps to be filled in with the imagination.
    In hindsight it was a mistake to comment or ask questions or even pose doubt. It's the same old concept of building up innuendo as to answer the full spectrum of a phenomenon with one example that lacks evidence.
    It answers nothing to my mind. It reads like a free floating ark of faith, which is your right to express. This scenario is true only on the basis of belief and suggestion.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Saturday, June 21, 2014  

  • I don't think anyone could write off the coincidences between Roswell witness accounts, WPAFB/Battelle Documents, and even more witness accounts from the likes of Exon, Center, and Geller. Granted some of the accounts are secondhand- but really there is an unusually high amount of coincidence involving memory metal.
    I think Tony is on to something.

    By Blogger Daniel Hurd, at Saturday, June 21, 2014  

  • It looks to me as though the original post was produced by Google translation, or some such. That doesn't help the comprehensibility very much; there are obviously several strings of argument here that are perhaps needlessly intertwined--any of them could be true or false, independent of the others.

    I will address only the metalbending-by-Uri-Geller part of the story: I seem to recall hearing--more than a decade ago--of a test of Uri by some scientists that involved a high strength metal rod, and I wonder if it is the one being alluded to here?

    In the story I recall, Uri was given the specially selected rod instead of the spoons or keys he was accustomed to. The idea is that common objects such as keys and spoons can be surreptitiously bent by hand and can be substituted for each other by sleight of hand. The metal rod was large enough in diameter that it was physically impossible for a human to bend it by hand, and was made of an unusual alloy that would be impossible to substitute, ahead of time. Supposedly he was able to bend the rod, thus convincing the scientists that, at least on that one occasion, he wasn't faking it. It sounds like this story might be describing the test with the Navy scientists.

    If so, the fact that the metal was Nitinol was coincidental; it was simply a rare, high-strength metal that was obtainable by the scientists and not by Uri.

    By Blogger Larry, at Saturday, June 21, 2014  

  • The pink elephant in the room regarding Geller is his claim of having a close encounter when he was a four years old boy in Tel Aviv. He's often credited this life changing event with his paranormal abilities.

    ~ Susan

    By Blogger brownie, at Saturday, June 21, 2014  

  • Yaaawn.

    Firstly the experiment done with Geller's alleged PK powers re nitinol, is recounted in the book edited by Columbia U physicist Charles Panati's 'The Geller Papers'. Book is available in its entirety online at Uri Geller's official website. Read it years ago. This is the book that recounts all the scientific experimentation done with Geller when he was a young man, back in the early 70's (when his fame was at its height).

    In the chapter on the nitinol experimentation (which has been made much of by Geller's supporters for decades now), there is nothing even vaguely hinted at re ET or more frankly B grade science fiction paranoia and conspiracy. And not in the decades since then neither. That's because nitinol's development is every bit as mundane as the invention and development of kevlar or for that matter the synthesis of new chemical compounds by chemists over the decades. But God forbid somebody point out the obvious.

    Nitinol is just an alloy of nickel and titanium, ooh how mysterious and bizarre is that... How impossible for post WW2 scientists to invent, sigh. I mean considering the utter lack of invention and advance in physics and metallurgy and engineering in the early and mid 20th century. Good thing an alien spaceship crashed to show these stupid earth scientists how to create a metal alloy, since nothing was known about alloys and the physics of metals POST WORLD WAR 2 (you know the 1950s). Right. Buehler's and Wang's work here is well-known and well documented. But don't let the facts get in the way of B grade science fiction now. Hey that's ufology.

    I doubt there is even a single metallurgist or PhD physicist on planet earth that wouldn't laugh at this claim re nitinol and Roswell.

    Even if one thinks Geller has or had real PK powers, and he really did affect and alter the nitinol physical 'signature' with his mind (and he may well have), so what? That is what does it have to do with ET and Roswell baloney?

    Duensing does not go far enough: this story has enough holes in it to drive the five hundred foot length Roswell spaceship that never was, through it.

    This kind of story would not necessarily pass muster with the editors of science fiction and fantasy periodicals, being too far-fetched and unbelievable. As in need of being toned down.

    Hey but that's ufology.

    Next up: Bill Chalker's alien pubic hair from Down Under, and the genetic analysis thereof, proving beyond reasonable doubt that the aliens are here, and having sex with us. Willingly or not. Like the Fairies of old. Please ignore the coincidence. We are ufologists after all, and folklore and myth does not interest us or have any relevance to the gosh darn nuts and bolts world of oh you know the rest.

    By Blogger Lawrence, at Sunday, June 22, 2014  

  • Lawrence-

    You are wrong. Since the publication of the Roswell-Battelle-Memory Metal articles (and chapter in Witness to Roswell) Tom Carey and I have been contacted by several metallurgists. Those scientists agree with our scenario. There are simply too many paper trails,'coincidences' and testimony in support of this.

    I reported on these metallurgists in 2011's "On the Trail of the Roswell Debris & Bodies" archived on this site (or Google to read.)

    Additionally, as Jose mentions, I reported some years ago that Naval Commander George Hoover (the inventor of the satellite)confessed to at least two people (including his namesake Phd/JD son) that the debris was recovered at Roswell and studied to attempt the back-engineering of the materials of construction.

    Daniel, thanks for the words of encouragement.

    RR, goofy? That is hardly what you have told me privately!


    By Blogger Anthony Bragalia, at Sunday, June 22, 2014  

  • Anthony:

    You're too defensive.

    I was only saying that I'm interested in all things whether they are goofy or not.

    This was not a reference to the memory metal story, although I'm not particularly impressed by the nitinol association, mostly because nitinol is a dental metal and I hate dentists.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, June 22, 2014  

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