UFO Conjecture(s)

Monday, July 07, 2014

Are UFOs mind-created?

Material in Arthur Koestler’s The Roots of Coincidence [Random House, NY, 1972] allows one to consider that UFOs are created by the mind of person(s) seeing them and, perhaps, even creating them.

“Our universe is no truer than that of the neutrinos – the exist in a different kind of space, governed by different laws … In our space, no material body can exceed the velocity of light, because at this velocity its mass and so inertia becomes infinite. The neutrino, however, is subject neither to gravitational nor to electro-magnetic fields, so that it need be bound by the this speed limit and may have it own, different time. It might be able to travel faster than light, which would make it relativistically [sic] recede in our time scale … mental entities, it appears that they have no definite locus in so-called ‘physical’, or, better, gravi-electromagnetic, space …This kind of perception involves a mental interaction, which is subject to laws of its own …” [Page 64]

“ … Eccles …believes that ESP and PK are weak and irregular manifestations of the same principle which allows an individual’s mental volition to influence his own material brain, and the material brain to give rise to conscious experiences. He also reminds us of an unduly neglected hypothesis, which Eddington formulated in 1939, of a ‘correlated behaviour of the individual particles of matter, which he assumed to occur fro matter in liaison with mind.” [Page 76]

“ … one reason for the erratic nature of ESP …[is] our inability to control the unconscious processes underlying it. Grey Walter’s experiments were not concerned with ESP, yet he [realized] that the ‘readiness wave’ will only attain sufficient strength if the subject is in a state described as ‘a paradoxical compound of detachment and excitement”. [sic] [Page 128]

What is being addressed above is the suggestion that those who wish to partake of an ESP experience needs to be relieved of excitement and emotion and need to be in a state of “self-transcending emotion.” [Page 128 ff.]

This goes to my previous conjecture that those seeing or experiencing a UFO event do so when they are in habitual zone of activity; that is they’re doing something rote and routine, such as flying a plane, gardening, picking flowers, hiking, or any other activity during which they enter a quasi-somnambulistic state of mind.

But Koestler goes further. He delves into quantum physics, positing that the “theory” allows for the mind to create material matter (or things) which have the appearance of reality but are actually illusionary.

“ … in Einstein’s cosmos and the sub-atomic micro-cosmos, the non-substantial aspects dominate; in both, matter dissolves into energy, energy into shifting configurations of something unknown. Eddington summed it up …’The stuff of the world is mind-stuff.’ … On both the cosmic and sub-atomic scale this intimate, tangible relationship turns out to be an illusion.” [Page 59]

“In his 1969 Eddington Memorial Lecture [ Britain’s most respected neurophysiologists, Dr. W. Grey Walter] reported, laconically, that harnessed to an electric machine, by an effort of will, one can influence external events without movement or overt action through the impalpable electric surges of one’s own brain.” [Page 123]

That the mind is able to create “realities” ex nihilo seems to be what cosmologists say nature did in the creation of the Universe [The Big Bang].

Koestler, in this book – and previous book The Ghost in the Machine – indicates that creation occurs by thought – an interaction of brain of mind actually. And a reality is created that appears actual but is illusionary, although the reality is as concrete as the reality one finds postulated in Quantum Theory (or Mechanics).

Does this mean that UFOs are created “realities”? Koestler tackles that with much about the Pauli-Jung collaboration Naturerklärung und Psyche which he sees as flawed although the work and Jung’s theory of the archetypes appear to have a similar acceptance of intangible reality that is tangible, in some sense.

My point here is that there are suggestions, by men (and women), that raise the specter of mind-created reality (ghosts, for example) and UFOs could very well be a created-reality that interacts with human senses and the natural world and its accoutrements (radar, film, et cetera).

The matter is more complex than my précis here presents it but I’m hopeful that some of you can or will address the finer points…



  • Rich, you make some great points. Of course Jung touched on similar matters in his controversial 'Flying Saucers: A modern myth of things seen in the Skies'. Eric Ouellet also expands on this kind of thinking in more detail and scrutiny, his social psi or parasociology articles (most recently one published in SSE's Edge Science), admittedly very controversial. John Keel flirted with this kind of thinking, when he wasn't getting detoured.

    This line of thinking also converges with the implications of the Global Consciousness Project/Noosphere project run out of Princeton (sans official support from the university), the relevant work here of Jahn, Dunne, Nelson, Radin, Bancel is worth perusing (also the criticisms of the project naturally enough).

    Obviously all this is controversial because it takes psi/the paranormal as a given. So one has to accept that, or consider seriously all the evidence in this respect, before getting to grips with its implications re ufology. Still it's a path worth going down, seeing where it leads. If there is a kernel of truth to all this, its implications to science, religion, sociology are incredible. And that is just the thing, there are a fair number of taboos that are breached here...

    By Blogger Lawrence, at Monday, July 07, 2014  

  • Some are created yes: Tulpas.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Monday, July 07, 2014  

  • While browsing the news this morning, I came across the headline:

    "Scientists Found Brain Switch which puts on and Off Human Consciousness"

    Does this bit of science affect what you have written?

    Best Regards,


    By Blogger Don, at Monday, July 07, 2014  

  • Koestler mentions something like that.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, July 07, 2014  

  • One reason I don't often comment in discussions such as this one is that my knowledge on the subject appears to be way out of date. Decades ago my interests in it were satisfied by the "split brain" thesis, and that seemed to be that. Since then the thesis seems to have vanished from consideration.

    What I found interesting in this study is the part of the brain involved, the claustrum, which is essential to the communications between the two hemispheres.

    I don't know if there has been a peer reviewed report on that communication when the subject is in "the zone".

    The thought being that what I referred to in an earlier discussion as paralogical or irrational experiences which we perceive as occurring in the real world of external relations being instantiated by changes in the communication between the hemispheres.

    Best Regards,


    By Blogger Don, at Monday, July 07, 2014  

  • Hellooo Simulation Argument. :)

    By Blogger Clayton Robertson, at Monday, July 07, 2014  

  • Don:

    While past considerations of brain and mind have evolved, there are throwbacks to some of the earliest considerations, which have turned out to be correct or nearly so.

    However, I suggest that you, like me, update you knowledge at least in a cursory way by getting some books or magazines on the topic.

    The internet is fine, if one checks out the source.

    I find Wikipedia, despite some hoary criticisms, to be helpful, often leading me to reference sources.

    Get anything by Oliver Sacks; always illuminating.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, July 07, 2014  

  • Your post's subject matter appears to be agreeable to my point of view, if not somewhat enchanting.

    The machinations of the human brain is similar to the UFO as both may be illusionary.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Monday, July 07, 2014  

  • Check out Alexandra David-Neel's famous "jolly monk" story, which you can find in my "The Real Men in Black," or widely online.

    I would not be surprised if the MIB were mind-created (albeit not deliberately, but unconsciously), as a kind of response to some degree of fear of what UFOs might be.

    The result: the MIB stepped right out of the collective Cold War fears of UFOs, the Russians, the G-Men etc and transformed into Tulpa-style, menacing MIB - totally lacking in self-awareness, and not even understanding what they are, beyond their drive to scare people, because they were born out of fear.

    With their job done, the Tulpa breaks down until anxiety (and other high states of emotion) give it temporary form again in the archetypal black suit and fedora-wearing MIB.

    And their odd, theatrical-like games begin again, and go on and on, but for no real reason.

    The MIB as thought-forms of the mind is the subject of a chapter in my MIB book.

    I would even say Truman Bethurum's "Aura Rhanes" might have been a thought-form.

    Read his "Aboard A Flying Saucer." A classic, psychological textbook case of someone wanting out of a stress-filled second marriage and up pops (very conveniently) the the very hot Aura.

    He was crushed when she went away (or collapsed into nothingness). But, his third wife filled the gap: Alvira Roberts, whose first and last initials of both names corresponded with those of his space babe: Aura Rhanes/Alvira Roberts.

    Even in reality, he couldn't let her go.

    She often came to him in his dreams. I would suggest she literally (in thought-form) stepped right out of his dreams, and took on a temporary reality that Bethurum fully believed in - which is why she "existed" in the first place: he believed in her.

    Belief is a much-needed thing that the Tulpa needs to survive.

    There's one other thing, Aura Rhanes was perhaps the only Tulpa worth shagging, if such a thing were possible!

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Monday, July 07, 2014  

  • Nick, I've also considered the MIB as a tulpa, it fits this (for lack of a better term) occult pattern. The high strangeness of MIBs and the MIB's precedent in occult and shamanic lore sticks out (what folklorist Peter Rojcewicz calls 'the extraordinary encounter'). Of course Rich has pointed out Biblical precedents for the MIB, which begs the question, were those tulpas too?

    An objection to the tulpa hypothesis is that it asks more questions than it answers, but this is true of all new discoveries and advances in science. A David-Neel's tulpa that Redfern mentions, is commonly cited on this topic. I have a rare early edition of that book of hers (from the 1940s, it was originally published in '29).

    By Blogger Lawrence, at Tuesday, July 08, 2014  

  • Lawrence: And, of course, Peter R had his own very weird encounter too - the library incident, a case filled with oddness. Very cool re the 1940s edition!

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Tuesday, July 08, 2014  

  • I though Tulpas were manifested through effort: emotion, concentration, intent.

    Rich: "This goes to my previous conjecture that those seeing or experiencing a UFO event does so when they are in habitual zone of activity; that is they’re doing something rote and routine, such as flying a plane, gardening, picking flowers, hiking, or any other activity during which they enter a quasi-somnambulistic state of mind."

    Tulpas, don't seem to qualify.



    By Blogger Don, at Tuesday, July 08, 2014  

  • Although Tulpas are allegedly created via intent, concentration etc, there is also a theory that they can come into form as a result of something like a meme.

    What I'm saying now is 100 percent hypothetical, but in that second scenario it's like this: everyone knows the stories of alligators in the New York sewers.

    It doesn't matter if the stories are real or not. What matters is that everyone knows of them and so the "meme", the thread, and the imagery is created.

    In that sense a Tulpa version of the sewer alligators might get seen.

    Not because anyone spent a great deal of time (or, in fact, any time) trying to create it, but because the meme itself, born out of the collective imagery of people, was strong enough to be formed as a Tulpa - unconsciously and without specific intent on anyone's part.

    Like all the Slenderman weirdness going around now: that was totally an Internet creation. But, now, people see it/him.

    I've seen no evidence of anyone conjuring up/creating the Slenderman. Rather, I think the meme-like imagery of it (which is quite memorable and chilling) does all the work and it begins to be seen for that reason and because it's on the minds of a lot of people.

    But, again, that's not a deliberate attempt to create it. It's happening beyond our control.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Tuesday, July 08, 2014  

  • @Nick

    I was very interested in the Cormon stuff you wrote about in your books...and a wee bit spooked that it seemed to mesh with the Collins Elite stuff.

    You might find the following to be interesting :):

    By Blogger Clayton Robertson, at Tuesday, July 08, 2014  

  • Thanks Clayton, will check out the link.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Tuesday, July 08, 2014  

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