UFO Conjecture(s)

Tuesday, July 22, 2014

The Electrical Connection to UFOs and the Other World(s)

In the book pictured here [Princeton University Press, Princeton, NJ, 1974] resides images that derive from various cultures over many years, millennia sometimes.

Some of the images seem, to me, to be similar to electrical schematics, too nearly so to be discounted as something imagined from thin air.

Here are two, this first comes from a sand painting of the Navaho people, early 20th Century [Page 188]
Another -- from the Aztec civilization, 15th century, A.D. [Page 189]
 This is an IBM computer chip diagram:

This is an electrical circuit:

This is Quetzalcoatl’s Heart of the Underworld (Aztec/Pre-Columbian) [Page 176]

This is computer wafer chip:

The [speculative] point I’m trying to make is that there appears to be a metal intrusion on ancient and current artists [Jackson Pollack], a mental intrusion that has similarities to electricity or electrical circuitry.

While early man, in its cave paintings, produced “realistic” images of their surroundings, some cultures -- Indian, in the sub-continent, Indian, in middle America – appear to have been affected by mental images that have co-incidental similarities to electrical design and circuitry. Why?

That UFOs are often reported to affect electrical circuitry in automobiles, atomic or military weaponry circuits, and power plants indicates that UFOs may have an integral electrical component or essence. [See my previous posting about electrical alien beings.]

Do UFOs affect witness brains, the electrical aspect of the brain?

A matter for research or investigation?



  • Any first year physics student is taught that everything is comprised of electromagnetic energy.
    Also, the storage , exchange and transition of one form to another as being interdependent in nature suggests all of this could be fodder for extrapolation if we take another leg of foundational physics and say energy is information, which is one of the venues Vallee has been exploring as of late given his background in cybernetics and software programming.
    Your post also gets into the arena of systems theory.
    Of course there are living systems that produce biochemical energy produced from the digestion of organic foods as an energy exchange so consequently,
    I think it is fair to ask if there are other such reciprocal energy exchanges we are unaware of.
    The answer to your question is in the affirmative versus the recycling of didactic posturing.
    The exchange between the explicate of empirical physicality and the implicate of it’s roots which is energy becomes a chicken or the egg subjective judgement call depending on who is looking at what which seems to be the calling card of twilight logic, the interstatial and the liminal. As far as I can tell, we are a very long way from pinning the tail on this stubborn donkey of deconstructive and irrational relationships that define the limits of logic. Whether it’s strings, bubbles or abstracted geometries, physics seems to have entered the same territory as the phenomenon under discussion..an unpredictable and unknowable process at this point. Anyone who says they know is full of it.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Tuesday, July 22, 2014  

  • Bruce:

    You've said much but haven't addressed the topic head-on or even peripherally.

    Maybe you think it doesn't warrant and erudide (but pithy) comment.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, July 22, 2014  

  • Rich: "Some of the images seem, to me, to be similar to electrical schematics, too nearly so to be discounted as something imagined from thin air."

    They also seem similar to diatoms.

    Best Regards,


    By Blogger Don, at Tuesday, July 22, 2014  

  • I don't think there is enough in your post to hang a hat on but as far as a basis for further investigation which was your question posed at the conclusion, my response is to say here's why there are reasons to say it might have validity as a "electric" phenomenon.
    As far as I know, outside of Persinger's research ( which is too lengthy to cite) it is a possibility among possibilities. What else is there to say?
    What do consider " a head on "response..you hint there is some kind of defining characteristic of what is pithy without any description so...your guess is as good as mine. Perhaps others will be more on whatever it is you are awaiting as a response.
    BTW..fractals are another form of organised energy seen in nature.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Tuesday, July 22, 2014  

  • I thought and was hoping you might interpolate some of Persinger's ideas, Bruce.

    They are worthy of notice.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, July 22, 2014  

  • The problem with conveying Persinger's concepts is that it's genesis beginning with "Space Time Transients" and subsequent empirical experiments with conduction of the physical brain have an evolution that covers a huge territory. To cite one aspect without conveying the whole is misleading albeit unintentionally.BTW..if anyone wants to avail themselves of any of his books, he has placed them free on line on his website.
    His concluding remarks in "Space Time Transients" is worth the price of admission in my book. It demonstrates how ridiculous most critical thinking on the subject of anomalies are by way of demonstrating a balanced perspective.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Tuesday, July 22, 2014  

  • Hi Rich.

    That first one looks like what you are implying, when you zoom in and really scrutinize it. Although one could get "picky" and argue it isn't a "closed" circuit, we don't know whether or not the upper right would imply an open switch.

    Regardless, I find it interesting how the artist chose to make sure that the chart shows a connection at the upper left, to the "plants", or "antenna system".

    I wonder how accurate the drawing is, as far as symmetry goes?

    Either way, they went through the trouble of actually connecting one of these extensions, (at the upper left)as if it might be VCC (power). The other end might be the protruding artifact sticking out at the top of the upper right, serving as a switch?

    And the south central natives really did display much digital looking artwork for some reason that I have long wondered about.

    Interesting article.


    By Blogger Bob Koford, at Tuesday, July 22, 2014  

  • Another interesting perspective is the interdisciplinary proceedings and paper assembled by participants at The University of Cambridge on consciousness and its relationship to the physical world. A leading researcher that is probably unfamiliar to your readers in exploring these relationships is the theoretical physicist Brian Josephson. Not your run of the mill gab.


    It might be of interest to your Einstein group if they haven't viewed it yet.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Tuesday, July 22, 2014  

  • Symmetry is everywhere in life. From snowflakes to butterfly wings. When we humans create art it is a complex interpretation of the things we have seen. I don't think aliens influenced any of this.
    I would say earth life influenced everything we have designed this far- including things like microchips.
    This doesn't destroy your speculative theory. But if logic serves us well, I would say these designs look just as much like snowflakes as they do circuits.

    By Blogger Daniel Hurd, at Tuesday, July 22, 2014  

  • Daniel:

    I was tying this posting to my previous posting of Bryan Sentes' electrical bacteria link, wherein I suggested electrical alien beings, a fantasy speculation which probably would drive David Rudiak to pull his hair out, if had any concern for creative speculation.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, July 22, 2014  

  • Rich:
    The electrical bacteria is really interesting. I wonder if it could infect us, or already does.
    I will have to go back and read your previous post about the electrical beings.

    By Blogger Daniel Hurd, at Tuesday, July 22, 2014  

  • You missed one... The 231 "gates" of the Sefer Yetzerah

    for a visual try: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3zZBqdGHz8g/UKqjJbjgMcI/AAAAAAAAAAc/hrkCIUnODak/s1600/231puertas%2Bpara%2Bcopia.gif

    The Sefer Yetzirah is a Jewish mystical text which purports to explain the creation of the world... and along the way explains how the permutations of "The Name" will result in 231 "gates" of Reality... and by proper use of these permutations one might construct a "Golem"

    My personal take of the "symbols" of past eras is that they say more about the method with which man communicates with his own psyche in a particular place and time. [forgive me if I take a short detour]

    P.E.I Bonewits in his book "Real Magic" proposed that "magic" [i.e changing ones consciousness according to one's will] can be accomplished by using three things: Mantra [Spoken word], Mudra [Motion or physical act], Mandala [visual symbolism]. Using the 3 M's one can reinforce or accept new beliefs / habits. One can easily see how this is part of Religion or beliefs or even political affiliation... even Science uses these methods [Theory / hypothesis, experimentation, mathematical symbolism]

    Most of the "iconography" and commensurate "mythology" of the past [including Roswell and any other thing which deals with "belief"] can be used to place one's mind in a particular state of "belief".

    In Roswell and most of the other myths of UFOlogy all have components which speaks to each of the M's. Robert Anton Wilson and Timothy Leary [and a few others] spoke of making "circuits" of consciousness to change ones beliefs.

    One might make claims that there is an "electrical basis" for a lot of things, unfortunately, "electricity" is not the most fundamental operator of the universe [unless you want to throw out the last 100 years of physics]. Energy is the same as matter-- its just a different form. But each of these things [Matter / Energy] is tied to our frame of reference and our beliefs and intellectual disposition. If you step out side of our frame of reference its a whole different thing.

    One of the to a lot of misconceptions in UFOlogy is that The things UFOs to to things which are electrical makes what they do EM in nature. That is not likely the case. My father insisted that the *effects* we could see were EM in nature but how they accomplished them had nothing to do with electromagnetic energy as we currently understand it to work.

    It's like saying "a frying pan cooks an egg" when it is the heat applied to the frying pan that actually does the work. We see the frying pan [the UFO] and assume that it is using some kind of EM field to stop cars etc. but what is actually doing the work is not electromagnetic in nature.

    By Blogger Joel Crook, at Wednesday, July 23, 2014  

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