UFO Conjecture(s)

Tuesday, August 12, 2014

The Socorro Symbol/Insignia tells us what Officer Zamora actually saw

French skeptic Gilles Fernandez has provided a link to his skeptical blog or forum, about the Socorro symbol:

Gilles looks at the symbol as a conjunction of memory, graphic similarities, and other associations.

It’s a legitimate take.

But my ongoing and obsessed attention to the symbol is premised by the idea that I’ve often expressed: Identification of the symbol (or insignia) will tell us what Officer Zamora spotted in the Socorro desert.

I’ve argued, earlier here and at our other blogs, that it seems iffy the symbol was inscribed by alien (extraterrestrial) beings on the side of their craft.

One can make the alien case I suppose, and Wikipedia’s review of human writing and proto-writing, highlighting the non-connection to western civilization’s evolved writing by Chinese, Japanese, AmerIndian script among others can help one do that:

Also, here’s a concise and pithy review of human writing from which one can make a case for an alien culture developing writing similarly to how human beings have:

But striving to show that an extraterrestrial presence would paint or place a symbol on its interplanetary (or inter-dimensional) craft raises more questions than it answers, such as how the phonemic connection to human writing was created and how similar writing came into being for an alien culture, but it could be done, and maybe has been.

Setting aside the problematic connection of an ET explanation for the Socorro craft, one can attempt to see if there are human symbolism that explains the insignia Lonnie Zamora saw and drew.

Matt Gilleece did this for us a while back, tracing the popular Socorro symbol to Howard Hughes:

But that explanation has been compromised by the insertion of other symbols that Officer Zamora allegedly saw and drew.

Monsieur Fernandez is locked into a skeptical stance that is warped by his incendiary dislike of the ETH and its proponents.

But he diminishes his dismissal by a rational comment about symbols generally:

"So the probability to find some similarities between symbols is not shocking me, nor hallucinating or astonishing me."

That’s not the point however, and it’s certainly not my point.

I think the Socorro craft was a man-made prototypical, experimental craft and the symbol was infused on it by its creator(s): Howard Hughes and the CIA operation, Raven Industries, the symbol a manifestation of the egoistical engineers that Mr. Hughes engendered and used.

That is has human origin is what I see, alchemical perhaps, or computer-symbolization as I’ve outlined several times in the past here, with cited illustrations.

Monsieur Fernandez can take all the time he likes to show that symbols are similar or generated by human memory and imagination but that is a fool’s argument.

I and others are not arguing that methodology.

We are merely saying that the Socorro symbol – if we can determine which one is the real one – will lead us back to the source of the thing seen by Lonnie Zamora in 1964.

It may turn out to be alien after all, but more likely it seems to have a human origin and when we discover or decipher that, we’ll have provided an explanation for the Socorro event.



  • You keep claiming that the Zamora/Socorro symbol is necessarily "forensic", but it can only be "forensic" (or indicate origin) if human in origin and of a KNOWN human agency (one in the public domain).

    If alien or of an UNKNOWN human agency, then it tells us absolutely zip about origins, no more so than Columbus' Spanish flag would tell the native Americans where he was from.

    Needless to say, a very intense effort was made by Project Blue Book 50 years ago to try to identify such a human agency, which resulted in utter failure to come up with anything that could remotely explain the craft Zamora observed. Further, no such HUMAN agency aircraft existed then or now that could explain the facts of the case (VTOL capable, wingless, hi-speed, and SILENT propulsion system). Dreaming up some imaginary, totally unknown human agency and technology smacks of desperation. (The only exception I can think of might be an early back-engineering effort of alien technology that might still be mired in high secrecy, but that I think is a big stretch.)

    Also, I think it utter nonsense to claim that an alien agency wouldn't make use of basic geometric symbols or inscribe them on their craft. Aliens had no use for lines, triangles, circles, etc.? Only humans use geometric designs?

    By Blogger David Rudiak, at Tuesday, August 12, 2014  

  • Give us David, the provenance of an alien writing.

    A whole alien cultural topography would have to be developed to allow a similar writing evolution as happened here, on Earth.

    You do that, and I'll listen.

    Just because some groups or individuals didn't find or couldn't find a Earthian source for he Zamora insignia -- which ever one it is -- doesn't deter me from thinking it's a human designation.

    After all, no one has found Judge Crater or Amelia Earhart or what the Voynich manuscript means.

    People are dumb, especially those who presume to be UFO investigators or "researchers."


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, August 12, 2014  

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