posted by RRRGroup at
Tuesday, September 30, 2014
At first glance, it only appears that Deimos was a project solely on paper. I see no evidence that it had advanced towards mock-ups and the sort.Even the timeline for an actual mission was listed some 20 years in the future...1986.A LEM prototype still seems more plausible for Socorro, imho.
By Tim Hebert, at Tuesday, September 30, 2014
There was an early 1960s mock-up Tim.You should be able to find it via Google.I'll put my copy online if not.RR
By RRRGroup, at Tuesday, September 30, 2014
RR,There was a mock-up of a vehicle called Pegasus, a sub-orbital transport rocket designed by Phil Bono. The mock-up was only plywood and the actual vehicle was never constructed. Project Deimos was a proposed Mars mission using another Phil Bono design, the Rhombus. Rhombus was also never actually built; Project Deimos was a paper project that projected using a vehicle that only existed on paper.
By Capt Steve, at Thursday, October 02, 2014
Do you see your own point, CS?A lot of projects in the time-frame.And there are no paper-only projects. Someone will always try a prototype.In the Socorro matter, someone's project was seen by Zamora.RR
By RRRGroup, at Thursday, October 02, 2014
The premise behind Harbinson's "Projekt Saucer" book series -- the lone-wolf genius who invents amazing flying machines -- has always interested me, and would go a ways toward explaining the lack of paper trail, etc., for these sightings (Socorro, 1890's airship). Not all genius types work for the Feds or Northrop.Problems come from funding these advances, which would seem to lead back to those gov-corp entities with huge resources.And, yes, Rich, that includes Howard Hughes. :)
By Ron, at Thursday, October 02, 2014
Thanks, Ron,You understand how it works.RR
RR,My point is that conjecture is fine and dandy, but it won't lead to the intellectual conversation(s) you appear to be craving on the subject if said conjecture is based on flawed assumptions. It falls to the level of the pro-ET crowd speculating about magical power sources. I like you, RR, but if you're going to conjecture about aerospace projects (known AND unknown) being responsible for Socorro you might want to do more background research first. Otherwise you stand the danger of falling into the same anti-intellectualism that that you've noted before when discussing the topic of UFOs.
Thank you Capt for the advice.But if you Google Socorro UFO Iconoclasts or RRRgroup, you'll see a raft of background material I've done on the topic over the years.Conjecture is a two way street.Someone suggests something and others can debunk it or suuport it, as you attempted to do.That provides material that is germane, usually.RR
Going back to the topic at hand, I accept that a mock up was constructed, but wonder if said structure (for that is what it truly was) was ever "planted" near Socorro.The Socorro episode does not lend to a stationary craft/mock-up otherwise the case would have been solved to everyone's satisfaction.
By Tim Hebert, at Thursday, October 02, 2014
The point I'm trying to make, Tim, is that there were lots of space vehicle constructs going on in the Socorro 1964 time-frame and in that vicinity, by lots of agencies, organizations, and maybe even individuals.Some of those projects were deeply hidden or certainly not publicized.The possibility that one of them was seen by Zamora is less outrageous than that he spotted a wayward alien craft.That no one had discovered the project is not surprising, considering the ineptitude of UFO researchers.RR
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