UFO Conjecture(s)

Sunday, September 14, 2014

Ufology Flies Further into the Flaky Arena

Many of you chastised Anthony Bragalia for his latest posting about remote viewing and Roswell, with attendant commentary about a Roswell séance from Nick Redfern.

And our favorite site about the paranormal -- The Anomalist – has become truly enamored of the fringe, UFOs as spiritual quirks, et cetera.

This reminds me of the 16th Century when the western world was engulfed in goofy activities and odd pretenses, as recounted in this book:
The 1500s were beset by a societal change – The Church of Rome under attack by Martin Luther and eventually unseated as the moral arbiter of human behavior by the Protestant movement.

This caused generally reasonable men (and women) to become mentally disoriented, causing them to accept or adopt practices that raised hob inside society.

(The Salem Witch Trials of the 1600s are an example.)

What is happening now that is creating societal turmoil that even extends to the obscure and ridiculous segment defined ad “ufology”?

Why it’s the onslaught of extreme Islamic movement, that hopes to unseat what it sees as the corruption of civilization by the western powers, headed by the United States of America and Great Britain.

The mental anxiety produced by this extreme “religious” movement seems to have infected even those who are usually removed from societal plights: UFO mavens.

While UFOs have a reported tangibility or reality as seen in the historical record and especially the journalistic record of the modern era, those who are mentally disjointed, at some level, by the societal upheaval promulgated by al Qaeda and currently ISIS in the middle east, have brought their disjointedness into the UFO arena.

Alien abductions and extraterrestrial visitation have been replaced by the idea that UFOs are a product of the eerie spiritual milieu – ghosts and spirits are the cause of UFO sightings and are the underlying explanation of UFOs – the UFO reality.

Just as spiritualism and psychic séances became epidemic in the late 1800s, those oddball activities are now recurring in the UFO community, besmirching a topic [UFOs] that is already too weird to be considered by sane individuals, let alone science.

Sure, ESP and related psychic manifestations should be studied by those who think there is intellectual or evolutionary gold inside those freaky matters.

But UFOs? Does that phenomenon need one more bizarre accretion added to its already baffling and queer lore?



  • The surge of engagement with liminal phenomenon is due to sublimated societal anxiety that is free floating, and has no specific remedy in terms of a target to hang its hat on due to the fact it’s caused by the vicissitudes of human nature. Whether it’s Henry Kissinger proclaiming that global social order has collapsed, the increasingly unstable weather patterns, the re-entry into an Iraq war, the internal economic pressures, etc,
    At the same time, there is no exit or disengagement available while one is embedded in the architecture of one’s role in every critical assumption that “makes things work” is being questioned. All this has been sublimated due to no other available options and yet needs somewhere to be buffered by alternative realities from fantasies, to fundamentalism.
    The rise in popular shows focused on “living off the grid” in Alaska is one of many examples.attempting to suggest there is an “out” where one is not hemmed in. There is an enormous amount of tensioning going on below the surface of appearances, the “public face” versus the private one where the conflicting forces meet.
    However, the nature of UAP is far from settled and presents open ended questions that require the exploration of all alternatives regardless of opinion. Opinions answer nothing and what was once Ufology is a quagmire of unfounded certainties expressed by opinion.
    Vallee and Keel are not alone. I could name several scientists ( physicists )who are working in this area of non local sentience as well as accredited technical consultants and engineers who have worked for NASA in developing their communications systems who are pursuing the entanglements of mind and matter..that have a bearing on UAP. So..ultimately,, I think it’s safe to say, we may find the universe we occupy is much stranger than we can imagine it to be.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Monday, September 15, 2014  

  • Bruce,

    I can accept an ephemeral connection between UFOs and the nether world but it's an iffy acceptance, the connection borne of a need by some to link up with the other side for various reasons, all psychological rather than scientific.

    You like to throw everything into the pot and, of course, what we get is a a kind of stew, sometimes tasty, sometimes just a globby, inedible mess.

    Getting the quidnuncs involved with UFOs and ghosts or any paranormal adjunct merely confuses the issue, as I see it.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, September 15, 2014  

  • I have been watching the uptick of paranormal programming as societal pressures mount as well as hard core comic book fantasies increase on the silver screen.
    I understand your reluctance. All one has to do is watch any mass media treatment of "UFO" subjects and then compare them side by side with the buffoonery involved with so -called "ghost hunters" in relation to ITC.
    The sober side of all this is lost in terms of intellectual or scientific reasoning to opening the gates of every naive fantasy lodged in either mythology and\or religion or seeking solace in "other possibilities"
    My favorite recourse in terms of a response to those who discount ITC was said by a researcher to a hard core skeptic;
    "How many experiments have you tried?"
    The issue of non local sentience behind UAP and a proactive versus reactive after the fact forensic examination simply confined to environmental effects is intriguing to me. As Vallee said of this affair it uses markers and what if we moved the markers?
    Perhaps something, perhaps nothing would result.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Monday, September 15, 2014  

  • Sure, BD...

    Pursuing all and any possibility makes sense.

    I'm just not inclined to get immersed in the "spiritual" angle.

    If I were heavily enamored of UFOs, as I once was, I might be tempted to get worked up.

    As it is, I'm not.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, September 15, 2014  

  • While I have no spiritual ideology nor a set belief system, I do understand your reluctance as I have some of my own toward the topic as time passes.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Monday, September 15, 2014  

  • Rich,

    You wrote: "Sure, ESP and related psychic manifestations should be studied by those who think there is intellectual or evolutionary gold inside those freaky matters."

    From my perspective, how does one ensure that there is gold vs fools gold?

    We have enough problems separating the wheat from the chaff as it is and there appears to be an over abundance of chaff up to this point in time. And this from merely discussing the tangible aspects of the phenomena.

    The psychic subjection only muddles, but of course, that's my opinion for whatever it's worth.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Monday, September 15, 2014  

  • For me, Tim, efforts like those of J.B. Rhine are or were fine and interesting.

    But involving such stuff in the UFO phenomenon or lore does, as you note, muddle things.

    That's the point I keep trying to make with Bruce.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, September 15, 2014  

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