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Friday, October 31, 2014

The Tulli Papyrus doesn't show flying disks over ancient Egypt

A papyrus, often used by Ancient Astronaut theorists to document "flyings disks" in ancient Egypt, is the Tulli Papyrus, said to be found by Alberto Tulli in 1933 (in an Egyptian antique shop).

A translation by R. Cedric Leonard is the translation favored by AA theorists, from which the image above derives.

Leonard's translation is found in his paper Fire Circles.

A translation by an Italian nobleman, Prince Boris de Rachewiltz, also is sometimes referenced. Rachewiltz claimed he found the papyrus among Tulli's papers after Tulli died.

The questionable portion of the papyrus is presented at Wikipedia, comparing the two translations:


This is the kind of thing AA theorists use, which causes ire for UFO skeptics.

Wikipedia concludes its Tulli Papyrus offering with this:

A recent study by Franco Brussino, published in Egittologia.net web pages, revealed that the Tulli Papyrus is a forgery, made up by a kind of collage of fragments taken from nine different papyruses. The source was the Egyptian Grammar by Sir Alan Gardiner, considered the most thorough textbook of the Egyptian language, published in 1927.

I like the conjectures of the Ancient Astronaut crowd, but once an assertion they use as AA proof is shown to be false, they have to acknowledge the falsity and abandon it, something they are loath to do.



  • For discussion of this, see Condon Report p. 497-500, the section written by Samuel Rosenberg.

    By Blogger cda, at Friday, October 31, 2014  

  • ``In summary, the Tulli Papyrus is not a papyrus, but rather a translation of a modern transcription of an alleged Egyptian document, the location of which is currently unknown, and has only been reported by one individual (i.e., de Rachewiltz). No scientific analysis can be made without examining the original for authenticity.``

    ``In 1973, Morton Smith, a professor of ancient history at Columbia University, claimed to have found a previously unknown letter of Clement of Alexandria in the monastery of Mar Saba on the West Bank transcribed into the endpapers of a 17th-century printed edition of the works of Ignatius of Antioch. The original manuscript was subsequently transferred to another monastery, and the manuscript is believed to be lost. Further research has relied upon photographs and copies, including those made by Smith himself.``

    Not unlike the Secret Gospel ending of Mark...

    By Blogger Parakletos, at Sunday, November 02, 2014  

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