UFO Conjecture(s)

Wednesday, October 01, 2014

The April 1975 Womack UFO experience

Found this at:


It's an experience more than an abduction (and I think Kevin Randle has dealt with this somewhere).

Location. Near Ryan Mountain Alabama
Date: April 1975
Time: evening

A 3-foot ball of fire dropped into the road several ft in front of John Womack’s car. He followed it until it rolled into a meadow, when he stopped & got out. It rose & disappeared, and a huge silvery object, like a disc with shallow upper & lower domes, appeared instead. 150 ft in diameter & 5o ft high, it was surrounded by a yellowish blue glow. A beam of light moved slowly toward the ground & spread out on reaching it, and the UFO began to descend. As Womack retreated, a beam of red light struck him in the face; he woke up aboard the UFO, sitting in a padded chair with a metal helmet on his head. In the room were intricate looking devices and 3 sorts of beings; 2 “leaders” with nose less faces & mouths like a porpoise’s. 3 giants at least 8 ft tall with hairy torsos & brutal looking faces, and 6-8 5-foot creatures with flipper feet, 6 crab like arms, 2 antennae, and beards, whose bodies were covered with “greenish warty lumps,” & whose faces wore a grinning expression. A large TV screen covered one wall. One leader spoke to the witness by means of a translating machine, telling him he would not be harmed, & shook his hand. He was then told that demons are responsible for all evil & suffering; the ufonauts use a pill that expels them. Their planet is 40 years distant; they live on food pellets; their ships are propelled by solar energy. They have been studying the earth for several thousand years. The witness was taken on a tour of the ship, and then given a view of the alien’s solar system. He came to himself sitting on the ground, & saw the UFO leave.

This is a drawing that Mr. Womack made of his "encounter"...
The encounter has all the earmarks of a psychotic experience, supported by this drawing which replicates the kinds of drawings that schizophrenics make after they've had an "episode."

Jose Antonio Caravaca might engage this event with his external agent thesis.

Or someone might try to justify the episode as an authentic UFO encounter. (I don't know what Kevin Randle's take was.)

Either way, the event is interesting in a number of ways, and almost unique....almost.



  • Interesting story Rich.

    First, the commentary provided by the witness is too linear and sequential for being involved in an extraordinary event.

    Second, the drawing, is too detailed based on an extraordinary event...it follows the linear/sequential commentary in a somewhat precise manner.

    For me, its too clean. I would have expected more fragmentation due to a stressful event.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Wednesday, October 01, 2014  

  • Tim:

    I see it as a borderline psychotic or schizophrenic episode.

    It's too quirky to be a hoax, and too bizarre to be an authentic UFO or alien encounter, unless aliens are nutty too.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, October 01, 2014  

  • If only visiting extra-terrestrials would comment here, we might better judge their sanity.

    By Blogger Woody, at Thursday, October 02, 2014  

  • This post brought to mind what seems to be a missing aspect to what occurred based on a simple question that came to mind while reading it.

    When we read about these events, are these about the ghost like creatures and their craft, or about the observer in terms of emphasis?

    From what might be called an anthropological point of view. We have all seen documentaries of so called UFO “experts” interviewing other “experts” as well as tarted up reenactments of those events on infotainment channels.

    What happened to those individuals after their ten seconds of fame? What effect ( if any) did it have on their personal lives in terms of making a living, family, friends and co-workers? What effect did it have on them personally over the long term? Do they regret making their accounts public?

    It’s certainly a story yet to be told and I would guess it would be an interesting one. We tend to abstract these accounts but it seems its also a story on a more human scale.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Thursday, October 02, 2014  

  • BTW..While I agree with both your view of this event as well as agreeing with Jose's "external agent" which I consider to be a transient form of atmospheric energy effecting brain functioning..inducing dream like states...I would be curious (based on your citing this as a transitory psychotic break, are there any other examples that are organic ( not from drug usage ) that have occurred, cited in literature you are familiar with?
    That might be an interesting parallel avenue to explore.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Thursday, October 02, 2014  

  • Bruce,

    Your observation about what happens to these people in the aftermath of their experience has been addressed by me over the years here and at our other blogs.

    It's grist for evaluation I agree.

    I noted that Harry S. Truman seemed unaffected by his alleged knowledge of aliens (at Roswell and elsewhere).

    That is, he continued his lazy after-life (walking, praising his daughter, et cetater) as if the world was as usual, nutty but free of anything extraordinary like visitors from another planet or galaxy.

    The same could be said of Ike and other presidents.

    As for normal folks, many went on with their lives and pushed their observation (hoaxed or real) to the background.

    The exceptions include Walton, Betty Hill, Hickson, and a few others.

    None seemed traumatized to the point of hospitalization or psychiatric care of long duration.

    But, again, I think ghosts and UFOs are two different phenomena.

    Trying to tie them together muddles the matter(s), even if they end up originating from the same source.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, October 02, 2014  

  • Perhaps "ghost-like" is a poor choice of word, and "apparition" might have less associative baggage inasmuch as I strongly suspect there is no physicality to these aliens. You could say those we encounter in dreams are the same sort of apparition, or what the onset of psychosis produces, inasmuch as the mind simulates..and produces these sort of zombie intelligence's, much like a AI computer or CG, a form of synthetic reality.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, October 03, 2014  

  • I've come across another event from 1977 that complicates the matter.

    I will add it upcoming.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, October 03, 2014  

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