UFO Conjecture(s)

Thursday, December 25, 2014

An Odd But Interesting UFO Contact Story

While reading an archive blotch, I found this tidbit in an internet-capture:

Australian Centre for UFO Studies

Issue # 3, June 2005

Editor : Sheryl Gottschall

"The Contact Story of the Dworshak Brothers As reported at the Ozark 2004 UFO conference, Timothy Good tells the contact story of Leo and Mike Dworshak that began in 1932 while living in North Dakota. Initially they saw a huge round silvery UFO with many coloured lights land in a valley near their home. These UFOs had very human looking occupants who the boys eventually communicated with over time. These ETs told the boys they had travelled to Earth for over 5000 years and were from a place far beyond our own by millions of years in time. Thus began an incredible story of ET contact, telepathic communication, ET control of time and space and their reasons for visiting planet Earth."

One of the boys wrote, later in life [2003] a book about the encounter(s) which can be found here:

Note how readers of the book accept the account(s) as rendered by Leo Dworshak.

Do we have a UFO tale that is real or an accumulated fantasy?

You decide.



  • Reminds me of another tattered pulpy tome entitled “The Rover Boys Defeat the Moon Bunnies”. In my minds eye I see a crafty, spindly and kindly old codger ensconced in his peanut butter stained checkered putter pants, taking a final drag on a smoke spilling ash on his soured corn flakes, smiling at his accomplishment of a lifetime, his last poof of perverse willpower.
    A sweet revenge upon morbidity and the clock.
    He chortles between coughs....and rips the last page from his battered Underwood typewriter...it’s a masterpiece of profound purloined puffery, a fantastical rabbinical journey into the Universal Id. He will become the bantering Arthur Godfrey of the nursing home set, a wizard...profundo par excellence. Or, it’s all true, a transcendent expose of truisms from a magic kingdom located far, far away.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • You do know, Bruce, that the story was first told when he was a kid, with his brother, in the 1930s.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • That nails it. remember the sisters of the Fairy Faith? Wee young innocents, yes? They had proof..photographs. Even Sherlock Holmes was soberly duped by the charisma of the non mundane, the possibility of another kingdom. And so it goes.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • Because the story predates the UFO hysteria of the late 1940s and 1950s I am hesitant to be dismissive, out of hand.

    But as will all UFO encounters, caveats are in place.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • I think it boils down to a matter of taste regarding outsider art as my preference is Henry Darger's masterpiece entitled "The Story of the Vivian Girls, in What is Known as the Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinian War Storm, Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion"
    Written during his hermetic pauper's existence, discovered after his ignoble death. Now that is a tale worth telling in my book.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • This UFO story, Bruce, has similarities to later UFO stories.

    Either the later stories took from the boys' tale(s) or the boys saw something, before the [UFO] fact.

    Your examples lie outside UFO lore and are not relevant.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • Its not about empirical physicality. It resembles more art than a hook you can hang your hat on, hence my reference.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • Geez, Bruce...

    One has to see the details and context.

    The UFO tale(s) told by the boys resonate with other later stories.

    That's what makes them interesting.

    That other people created fairies or accepted the Vivian Girls doesn't connect.

    You have my dog chasing its tail.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • We disagree agreeably again.
    Its the crux that Borges referred to often that in every truth there is fiction and vice versa and you can cut the pie as you like and that's it's nature.
    Space creatures from other worlds and spaceships were in the common mind's eye before their adventure and so it was afterward.
    Its the trans-positioning of the charismatic to pragmatics that is like the alchemist quest to turn lead into gold.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • You've read the account or the book, I hope.

    You're familiar with the story told, right?


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • Yes. To me both what Henry found and the boys found was a refuge.
    To us, what we have is belief that cuts both ways and whether this story is true in a empirical sense, matters not to me personally as it's nature is such that such things as these accounts are... have their own gravitational pull as they illustrate the human condition.

    To ask more of them is to toil in vain as they then become abstracted as mixed metaphors.

    We see things from two sides of the same mirror.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • Rich:

    When I first read this book about 10 years ago, I was struck by its simplicity. Like you, I cannot bring myself to dismiss it out of hand.

    My father claimed to have had what is now a classic UFO encounter in the backwoods of Wisconsin when he was about 5 years old, in--I think--1918. Not too far from North Dakota where Leo Dworshak and his brother supposedly had their encounters. I suspect that UFO encounters were occurring at a low level in the USA heartland well before the upsurge in the 1940s, but no one was reporting them except to close family members and friends.

    By Blogger Larry, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • Thanks, Larry...

    I think an open mind -- not a chasm however -- is appropriate.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, December 26, 2014  

  • You do realize, don't you, that if an old man self-publishes a book in 2003 claiming that he and his unfortunately long-deceased brother had amazing though extremely improbable and boringly stereotypical encounters with the usual half-witted space-aliens who talk in new age platitudes, but this took place in 1932 long before Whitley Streiber, Betty Hill, or even Charles Adamski helped to invent that particular bandwagon, it would help the credibility of his story quite a bit if he'd mentioned this to any verifiable source in 1932?

    In fact, it would be useful to know in what year this fellow first mentioned to anyone (other than immediate members of his family who didn't tell anyone else and are in any case dead) that he had a special relationship with his secret space friends, just like that Whitley Streiber fellow who made all that money, only without all the big-things-up-the-bottom pervy stuff.

    Was it in 1932, when it allegedly happened? If so, how come this isn't one of the all-time classic UFO cases? Or was it nearer to 2003 when his self-published book came out? Is there in fact any proof at all, even in the form of statements made to flying saucer clubs, that this guy had met the kind of space-people who are currently fashionable way back in 1932, that was on the record prior to the publication of his book in 2003? Any whatsoever?

    There's a difference between having an open mind and letting your brain fall out.

    By Blogger Count Otto Black, at Sunday, December 28, 2014  

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