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Tuesday, December 02, 2014

The Socorro Insignia? (From Jose Antonio Caravaca)

Our colleague and friend Spanish UFO researcher Jose Antonio Caravaca is as obsessed with the Lonnie Zamora/Socorro symbol as I am.

He found this Air Force insignia:
And here's Senor Caravaca's take on the Socorro craft with insignia:
Make of it as you will.



  • That is interesting...

    Let's say that hypothetically that the "craft" had the AFSC logo, this would mean that the craft was a DoD project strictly from AF R&D efforts with minimal corporate support pending request for proposal (RFP) from industry.

    Generally, when I was in Systems Command, we would have specs listed in the RFP and ask industry to build/develop from those specifications.

    Interesting, none the less.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Tuesday, December 02, 2014  

  • I thought so too, Tim.

    That Jose, he's Sherlock Holmes-like.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, December 02, 2014  

  • I would be interested to know if hapless Zamora could associate this symbol with another he had previously encountered in another context. The chevrons being associated with the identity of military personnel come to mind as well as several others.
    It could be what he saw was not not he saw that is more analogous to a waking dream where he superimposed subconscious elements by rearranging them into a state of disassociation.
    Maybe, maybe not.

    By Blogger Bruce Duensing, at Wednesday, December 03, 2014  

  • Touching on what I think Bruce was getting at- could Zamora's depiction of the symbol he saw be influenced by other symbols prevelant during the time? If this was an otherworldly craft (extremely doubtful) maybe his mind was only able to associate the symbol with images and symbols he had already seen previously. So in the end maybe his depiction isn't all that accurate. However, I don't think that is the case. I think he witnessed something of human origin that had a very human symbol or insignia on it.

    By Blogger Daniel Hurd, at Wednesday, December 03, 2014  

  • But doesn't this insignia look like the symbol Lonnie didn't see? The one made up to misguide the public?

    By Anonymous Anonymous Astronomer, at Friday, December 12, 2014  

  • We don't know for certain which symbol was the one Officer Zamora saw and drew, although when I talked with Mrs. Zamora in 2005 she told me that the popular symbol (the one with the arc or arrow) was what her husband saw.

    I've covered this "controversy" multiple times here, which you can find in the archive listings or easier by Googling "Socorro Symbol and UFO Iconoclasts."


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, December 12, 2014  

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