UFO Conjecture(s)

Wednesday, September 03, 2014

David Rudiak responds but....

I got a comment from David Rudiak for the posting prior to this but I'm not putting it down for posterity. It was a personal attack, which David can't refrain from doing....he has little sense of humor when it comes to Roswell or UFOs altogether.

But I'd like to insist that in the Roswell time-frame there were lots of balloon tests going on, besides Mogul or Helios. For example, this from the NASA archives:

A description is presented of main balloon applications, giving attention to the Skyhook project, the Moby-Dick project, the Transosonde project, the Rockoon project, and the projects Stratolab and Manhigh.

David is fixated on Mogul and we all know why, don't we?

Mac Brazel was a dolt, and his "debris" was balloon scrap, just as the Army said.

RR

Our Source(s) for the Brazel/Roswell Alien Debris Dismissal

David Rudiak likes to think that his Roswell site is the fount of all information about Roswell and that material appearing online comes from his site.

However, some of us have been at this a lot longer than Mr. Rudiak, and we have, online, material that does not derive from his site.....exactly the opposite often occurs.

If one Googles the title of our previous Brazel posting, they will find this:

http://ufocon.blogspot.com/2007/04/original-sources-of-1947-roswell_26.html

http://ufocon.blogspot.com/2007_04_22_archive.html

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ParanormalGhostSociety/conversations/topics/50152

Our original information from the NASA archives along with a site that borrowed our input, which is okay with us. (There are others as you'll see with a Google search.)

Moreover, here is an insert that causes us to speculate on the Brazel "debris" find:
And here is the full paper from December 1947 that tells us Mac Brazel found something from the tests that took place in his area......this does not come from Mr. Rudiak's site. We found it during our "research" years ago:

Controlled Balloon Flights over Roswell, July 1947

RR

Kenneth Arnold: Delusional ET Believer or Observer of Actual Odd Flying Objects?

This appeared in the article, pictured above [Saturday Evening Post, April 30, 1949]:
Arnold, while investigating the (alleged) Maury Island sighting in June 1947, generally considered a hoax, saw, "while flying to the scene of the investigation," as the segment above reports, a "covey of twenty-five flying disks."

Did Arnold really see 25 flying disks or had he become delusional within the hectic flying saucer cultural milieu of the time period?

One can make a case for delusion [See Symptoms of Psychopathology, John Wiley & Sons, 1970, Page 55 ff.].

While Kenneth Arnold's initial iconic sighting of nine objects near Mount Ranier is still open to interpretation, his stated observation of a covey of twenty-five flying disks bespeaks a mental disorder.

Or did he really see a covey of flying disks? His testimony seems incredulous. But does that demean his original "flying saucer" sighting, June 24th, 1947?

Just as current and long-time UFO aficionados (you know who I mean) have become ET obsessed when it comes to UFOs, without any substantive proof of an extraterrestrial connection to the phenomenon. one can understand the psychological mechanisms at work in the symptomatic array that UFO buffs have become immersed in.

This is what happened to Kenneth Arnold, at a time when flying disk hysteria was prevalent, even rampant.

Or one can say that Arnold saw nine odd flying objects and even a covey of twenty-five shortly thereafter.

But that would be participating in the hysterical delusion, would it not?

RR