UFO Conjecture(s)

Saturday, January 31, 2015

Pythagorean Ufology

It is clear to any sensible (sane) person that the past and current approach to understanding the UFO phenomenon has been and is flawed.

The mystery of UFOs remains unresolved because the persons studying it are not intellectually astute enough (or at all) to give the phenomenon the full inquiry it needs.

Donald Keyhoe was enamored of the military’s alleged cover-ups of sightings, but only that.

Jerry Clark has the best overview of the UFO as a topic but he understands it from the historical perspective particularly.

Stanton Friedman understands it from a physicist’s perspective.

Michael Salla fixates on the deviousness of government agents and agencies.

The accumulation of data (sightings and related reports) continue, but that data (as a singularity) is not being examined by “ufologists; they can barely keep up with the information culled from the past and coming in everyday unabated.

Ruminations over past UFO episodes provide the pretense that some are studying the phenomenon in serious ways.

Martin Shough, Larry Hatch, Wendy Connors, and a multiple of other UFO’s lesser lights regurgitate and re-dice UFO incidents, trying to leave the impression that they are dealing with the enigma scientifically, seriously.

But the inherent deficiencies of the people and the UFO studies aside, what is to be done with the present state of “ufology”?

The study of UFOs has to be conducted in “secrecy” and by that we mean, away from the debunkers, hoaxers, self-aggrandizers, pretenders-to-the-throne, those with an agenda, those who nit-pick errant but non-essential minutiae, those who are moronic, and those who think reality is limited to what the six senses perceive.

Pythagoras created a secret order for the very reasons enumerated above. He wanted to study philosophical/physical reality away from the ignorant mob, which also included those in his society who thought they were erudite about the meaning(s) of it all.

This is what Jacques Vallee has done, and Joe Firmage too.

This what has to be done, just to escape the gathered and gathering garbage under the rubric of “ufology.”

RR [From the RRRGroup blog, 2006]


  • Not much has changed since 06, eh?

    Aubech and Vallee have gone some way towards establishing the existence of UFO phenomena in the past. At least they sought to present the reports intact and avoided reinterpreting them all as evidence of bigfoot, aliens or the CIA. Too many of their peers have pressed their own beliefs onto anything that flew or sounded unusual.

    Some of the social changes have been interesting.

    The 'Disclosure' crowd peaked with Exopolitics. We had 'demons' on the back of Imbrogno, Redfern and Guilley. Seemed like a lot of eschatology fans rode the wave in the build-up to 2012 too. Lot of End-Timers equated demons with UFOs and abductee claimants.

    'Serious' ufology made headlines with Leslie Kean's book and numerous calls for Congressional hearings.

    Roswell kept motoring with a series of teasers that left us numb with anticipation...

    Abduction research lost its significance as reports dwindled and the researchers' credibility-stock fell sharply. As fast as the proponents cited 'scientific rigour,' they were quick to ad-hom their detractors as ex-wives and nuts with agendas.

    The Interdimensional Hypothesis fought the ETH and took precedence in the populist quarters of ufology.

    The current trend is heading towards CIA and dark projects.

    Outposts of like-minded groups continue to call for 'science' to readdress the 'data' and hold on to the hope that a signal in the noise will lead to information and statistical results.

    It's exactly like the 60s all over again and the truth is just around the corner!

    By Blogger Kandinsky, at Saturday, January 31, 2015  

  • Yes, K...

    It's like the dog chasing its own tail and finding his tail slightly different each time it catches it.

    But the tail remains the tail nonetheless.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, January 31, 2015  

  • On the theme of repetition, it's hard to avoid cliché.

    Rather than the dog chasing its tail, perhaps the blind men describing an elephant parable is more accurate? Or as a compromise between our clichés...

    Ufology is an elephant chasing its own tail whilst a lot of blind folk try to describe it to several translators? (Some of whom lose their senses)

    I like this one as it still leaves an elephant in the room.

    By Blogger Kandinsky, at Saturday, January 31, 2015  

  • Hahahaha...

    The problem with your metaphor, K, is that ufology is not as unique as an elephant but more like a dog, a mutt.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, January 31, 2015  

  • 'Mutt' works just as well.

    It might have left the room, but the stink lingers and guests speculate on the cause.

    By Blogger Kandinsky, at Saturday, January 31, 2015  

  • Pythagoreanism lead directly to Platonic thinking. It was Pythagoras who said that "All is Number" -- thereby reducing everything that exists to the non-physical noumenal realm.

    Plato cannot be properly understood without Pythagoras. And Christian theology owes an enormous debt to Platonism.

    Tartaros was said to be as far beneath 'Hades' as 'Heaven' was above the surface of the Earth. It's infinitely far away, because it's not the same KIND of realm.

    By Blogger Parakletos, at Saturday, January 31, 2015  

  • ``Whomsoever I shall mark minded apart from the gods to go and bear aid either to Trojans or Danaans, smitten in no seemly wise shall he come back to Olympus, or I shall take and hurl him into murky Tartarus, [15] far, far away, where is the deepest gulf beneath the earth, the gates whereof are of iron and the threshold of bronze, as far beneath Hades as heaven is above earth: then shall ye know how far the mightiest am I of all gods.``


    By Blogger Parakletos, at Saturday, January 31, 2015  

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