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Friday, February 06, 2015

What UFO devotees want to see and discuss

This notation of this blog's readership (or hits) during the Kodak slides brouhaha indicates that many UFO-interested persons want to indulge in the Roswell or Kodachrome alien slides controversy.

But will some UFO buffs allow them that "enjoyment"?

RR

13 Comments:

  • It's probably down to vanity-clicks by those involved in this media money-grab.

    ...only half-joking!

    By Blogger Kandinsky, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

  • You did allow us that enjoyment for a hot minute there, Rich! What happened? Lol

    By Blogger Daniel Hurd, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

  • Sorry Daniel...

    I had to thwart the mean-spirited comments from "friends" about my errant Ike and Bernerd Ray association.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

  • RR says, "This notation of this blog's readership (or hits) during the Kodak slides brouhaha indicates that many UFO-interested persons want to indulge in the Roswell or Kodachrome alien slides controversy."

    It could also indicate that they enjoy watching a game, as you called it in your last entry; they're like sports fans with no real interest in the substance of the particular event--it's the contest. Or is it more of a soap opera? (g) Or gawkers, lookyloos anticipating the carnage?

    Anyway, no one commanded that you pull the entries and so send the hits tumbling, we merely suggested that it was getting fast, loose and out of control and you might hit the brake a bit, my friend. You were "mentally hauling it to Aztec" as Tim H so hilariously put it. That cracked me up!

    "But will some UFO buffs allow them that 'enjoyment'?"

    Friends don't let friends go bat-scat crazy, even if this blog is called "UFO Conjectures."

    We been here before.

    By Blogger zoamchomsky, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

  • Zoam, you're so stuffy.

    As for Tim's observation, he forgets the past Aztec/Roswell debate or under-rates it.

    He's no fun either.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

  • Yes, Rich; I'm just a wet blanket.

    "All the time we were at Fallingwater, ZO kept reminding us of how most of Wright's artsy houses needed structural reinforcement from the get-go. We can't have any fun on this trip. That ZO is such a wet blanket!"

    Wet blanket or REAL friend, like PK, who watches your back?

    By Blogger zoamchomsky, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

  • No, Zoamerino...

    You're a good "friend" just a bit on the stuffy side.

    As for Paul, he's been a friend for 10 years and counting.

    He just needs love and attention, more attention than you or I need.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

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    By Blogger zoamchomsky, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

  • Stuffy isn't an epithet, at least not as I mean it.

    It's a term of endearment in these parts, often used for Teddy Bears.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

  • Making the rounds, I notice names new to me parachuting in to type up lame comments about the slides.

    Common are sentiments such as, "Keep up the good work, AJB," even though it's been a complete schmozzle so far.

    Or "The skeptics are just afraid what this could mean to their belief systems," or "Some are just here to spread disinfo," even though most UFO buffs and believers alike (even the ardent ufophile David Rudiak) are raising a forest of red flags about the slides.

    My point being, I think there are two groups interested in the Roswell slides: 1) the more-or-less serious buffs and skeptics, who all seem to be giving the slides a rough ride, and 2) the part of UFO fandom that believes even the most baseless conspiracy claims, provided they come in video form and are accompanied by spooky music.

    I have to wonder if this is why Maussan is revealing the slides: is it a conscious ploy by the slides' owner to bypass group one?

    So, Rich, my conjectures compel me to suggest you spare group one the lash and lay it on group two and the slides' stakeholders.

    By Blogger Terry the Censor, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

  • Terry I agree, somewhat...

    But life is short and we should see "ufology" as a respite in the daily hum-drum we are all subject to.

    The slides, foolish or not, gives a sojourn from ISIS and the IRS, among other travesties of life: disease and death.

    That some would put a damper on the foolishness irks.

    The one saving grace for me is my solid friendship with Nick Redfern who is the most stable of UFO buffs and the most decent fellow I know: brilliant and funny, and not quick to dismiss anything.

    He sees the serious aspects of the slides imbroglio and the silly side too, but refrains from calling out anyone, no matter how badly their thought processes may be when it comes to Roswell, the slides, or anything else.

    That keeps me grounded and perpetually snarky.

    So, let's not eschew anyone, yet.

    The slides event will allow some fun and "told you so."

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

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    By Blogger CommanderCronus, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

  • @CommanderC
    > pseudo-intellectual blowhards who consider themselves serious UFO buffs

    While you are correct on the generalities, I have a different perspective (if I am allowed to use that phrase on this blog!).

    As stated in my previous comment, there is an unusual amount of doubt and caution about the slides, with buffs, believers and skeptics in basic agreement that it could all go sideways quite easily (if it hasn't already). Only the dimmest of fandom is taking Braglia et al on faith.

    It is quite rare for a UFO claim to be so dang sketchy that both the true-blue believer and the diehard skeptic end up showing the same "epistemic values" (as the philosopher Michael Ruse calls them), that is, a respect for how facts are derived.

    The Roswell slides show that even committed believers are quite capable of being pushed too far, that they will say, "Enough!" Usually they are reluctant to do so, for fear of "giving comfort to the enemy." But I don't see that partisan concern with the slides.

    It's heartening.

    By Blogger Terry the Censor, at Friday, February 06, 2015  

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