UFO Conjecture(s)

Thursday, April 23, 2015

Jose Antonio Caravaca: Jaime Maussan on the slide(s) body

Maussan says the humanoid in the slides was 48 or 72 hours in the desert exposed to more than 100 degree heat, it is appreciated in that the body has a kind of "mummification by desiccation", but it has some parts where is observed "fresh flesh", so it is supposed the slides were obtained 2 or 3 months after the recovery of the bodies. Maussan said that "there are so many anomalies in the picture (slides) with respect to a human being: the head, the... shoulders, the number of ribs, the size of the arms, the size of the feet, the narrowness of the hip, all these elements seem somehow present in some cases of humans, as a syndrome, but by separate, not all together, for that a person with all these syndromes in one body to reach the adult stage is virtually impossible, he would die just months or a year of his birth, and this is a being that is larger than one meter would then have to be a young boy (...) geneticists who are investigating every possible illness, they will indicate all those that can be applied, but at the end, there is not a case historically recorded that actually presents all these symptoms in one body (...) if this being is, supposedly, on display in a museum, could exhibit the body of a child in a museum if have undergone a necropsy? ".... 

Maussan believes it would not be ethical show this corpse in a museum.... (!)


JAC

12 Comments:

  • These genetists might point out the anomalies with the body being that of a human but it can't be ignored that it has to many features of a human for it surely to be an alien?!

    Surely they would have been shaped by their own planets unique environment just as there is great diversity of life on Earth. Stephen jay Gould said that if we re ran history we would not be here as life is a fluke.

    By Blogger Stephen Jackson, at Thursday, April 23, 2015  

  • This opens the door, Stephen...

    to time-travelers or inter-dimensional beings.

    The Darwinian/Gould models of evolution cannot (and do not) allow an aliens species (from another planet, outside our Solar System, particularly) similar to our own.

    (This has been an earlier topic here or at the RRRGroup blog.)

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, April 23, 2015  

  • The energy travel requirements for ETs, especially from other star systems, are so astonishingly huge to anyone with a hard science/technology education that even underground Earth civilizations are more feasible.

    Sorry, kids.

    By Blogger Loki, at Thursday, April 23, 2015  

  • Loki,
    You have to admit though, that's based entirely on what little we know about the universe. It bothers me that scientists use this excuse as the reason we haven't been visited by alien life forms. It's assumption based, not factual. We know far to little to make such assumptions.
    Imagine a race of beings 10,000 years more advanced than us, or 100,000 years more advanced than us.
    Saying that they can't get here based on what we know about energy and distances is the equivalent of a Neanderthal telling me that the only way to make light is with fire.

    By Blogger Daniel Hurd, at Thursday, April 23, 2015  

  • Stephen Jackson said:
    These genetists might point out the anomalies with the body being that of a human but it can't be ignored that it has to many features of a human for it surely to be an alien?! Surely they would have been shaped by their own planets unique environment just as there is great diversity of life on Earth. Stephen jay Gould said that if we re ran history we would not be here as life is a fluke

    Sorry Stephen Jackson, but Jay Gould was wrong:

    Bieri, Robert. "Huminoids on other planets?." American scientist (1964): 452-458.

    Morris, Simon Conway. "Predicting what extra-terrestrials will be like: and preparing for the worst." Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London A: Mathematical, Physical and Engineering Sciences 369.1936 (2011): 555-571.

    By Blogger Don Maor, at Thursday, April 23, 2015  

  • Stephen Jackson wrote:

    "Surely they would have been shaped by their own planets (sic) unique environment ...."

    Freeman Dyson (among others) has conjectured that our current generation may be the last one subject only to Darwinian evolution. Our ability to create genetically modified organisms is increasing exponentially, like most areas of human knowledge.

    Space/Time travelers only a century or two ahead of us could probably inhabit custom designed bodies, if they wanted to.

    It is a logical mistake to assume that advanced Space/Time travelers would have bodies displaying only features that came about through natural selection.

    By Blogger Larry, at Thursday, April 23, 2015  

  • Loki said:
    "The energy travel requirements for ETs, especially from other star systems, are so astonishingly huge to anyone with a hard science/technology education that even underground Earth civilizations are more feasible. Sorry, kids."

    Oh Loki, it is so evident now, that you are NOT one of those guys with a "hard science/technology education". If you really were one of those, you would NOT be saying that.
    Tell us Loki, what are you, a lawyer? a psychologist? Sociologist? a computer technician? Don’t tell me.

    By Blogger Don Maor, at Thursday, April 23, 2015  

  • Meanwhile, as we get back on topic, can anyone decipher if the image in the photos was a real biological entity from beyond the realms of this earth?

    I thought not...

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Thursday, April 23, 2015  

  • Rich/Larry

    I do not buy into time travelling beings, not us from the future if thats what ur implying,

    interdimensional yes in the sense these beings are skipping through dimensions to get here

    I just do not believe in time travel not in the sense you can go back in time, its more believable for me that there are other beings from an much older star system than ours that have reached here

    By Blogger Al12, at Friday, April 24, 2015  

  • Loki

    "Especially from other solar systems, are so astonishingly huge"

    Is it? theres more energy in a cubic centimetre of a so called vacuum than one could possibly imagine.

    learning how to manipulate it, to blend with it along with conciousness for propulsion purposes could be what there using to get here.

    By Blogger Al12, at Friday, April 24, 2015  

  • I have said before, nobody will ever establish anything with these slides. They are, in the end, worthless to science if the purpose is to prove ETs have visited the earth.

    What we need is the actual ET bodies, nothing else. Where are they?

    By Blogger cda, at Friday, April 24, 2015  

  • Al12: Your viewpoint is not necessarily in conflict with mine. My speculation about Space/Time travel is actually consistent with General Relativity.

    What it appears to require is what some refer to as "low-energy" Space/Time warping. There are several conjectures about how that can be achieved. Given that it's possible, traveling in this mode avoids the energy conundrum inherent in the rocket equation that Loki refers to. Moreover, it also means that Space travel is also intrinsically Time travel. General Relativity actually requires this fact.

    In theory, the energy to accomplish this might come from Zero Point Energy.

    I also agree with your conjecture that consciousness might play a central role in orchestrating this process. (I think it requires more consciousness than most humans--as currently defined--possess.)

    These conjectures are relatively independent of each other; just because one is either true or false does not necessarily mean that others are true or false.

    By Blogger Larry, at Friday, April 24, 2015  

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