UFO Conjecture(s)

Tuesday, May 05, 2015

The May 5th Coup de grace or coup de morte?

The body:
Jose Antonio Caravaca sees a mummy here.

I'm not so sure, but nothing was definitive.

More to come as the "event" sinks in: a set-up for a new Roswell book by Carey and Schmitt?

RR

29 Comments:

  • One of the highlights was the hilariously repetitive testimony of their "witness". He droned on and on and on and never really said anything. He only tepidly agreed that the slide looked sort of like what he "saw".

    He must have said three times, "I never saw the feet!" And he seemed to feel that this was a very important point.

    I NEVER SAW THE FEET!

    Lance

    By Blogger Lance, at Tuesday, May 05, 2015  

  • Well, he is an old guy, Lance, a very old guy, and I bet feet are important to him for some reason.

    I could barely understand him, the sound was so execrable.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, May 05, 2015  

  • I guess I didn't miss much?

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • For me, Nick, the Hilda Ray story was interesting.

    AS for the Roswell recaps, it was like a video of Kevin Randle's blog when he puts forth a Roswell topic.

    You missed nothing I'm sorry to say.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • What was said about Hilda Ray?

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Her background and comments from relatives and friends indicate a well-connected or worldly woman.

    As to whether the slides were hers is circumstantial, but seems to be a real possibility.

    Why she or anyone would have them or save them in a secret cache is the story to pursue.

    Nothing on Bernerd Ray, except he was interested in oil fields.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Hmmm, still not sure I missed much.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Oh you missed nothing, Nick, nothing at all.

    All had been covered in preceding months, and the primary purpose seemed to be a set-up for a new Roswell book by Carey and Schmitt.

    Richard Dolan was stiffed.

    And the presentation so lugubrious that I imagine the audience took a siesta.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • So... Its over? I hope so

    By Blogger hamilton, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Maybe Hamilton, and maybe not.

    The embers of incredulity remain afire.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • I was more eager to believe than anyone, and this was freaking terrible. I wasted so much of my life during the last 6 months for this let down. I no longer believe in aliens. F U Carey and Schmitt.

    By Blogger monsterBL, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • They didnĀ“t show the second,"more interesting" slide?

    By Blogger Zak McKracken, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Found the second one :

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CETET43WgAEfF1N.jpg

    By Blogger Zak McKracken, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • > Richard Dolan was stiffed.

    He spoke at the end, didn't he? I was following a live Tweet.

    Dolan seemed to go off-script:

    https://twitter.com/SpatzieLover/status/595819127782121472

    By Blogger Terry the Censor, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Hi - My name is Loki, and I am an UFOholic...

    I am sorry to admit I watched this 'event' and here is what I think I learned:

    Schmitt has a very good make-over specialist on retainer; for a 60 year old guy his fake tan (he lives way up north in Wisconsin!) and his excellent hair dye and VERY excellent beard dye job serve well to complement his confident stage presence. He was underutilized for some reason.

    Carey seems to have picked up a UFO Professor J. Allen Hynek goatee/beard for his role in this play (perhaps he feels that it will give him the intellectual ufological gravitas he so desperately craves?)
    Carey was little more than a blabbering UFO-Doofus, an embarrassing verbal incompetent. His 'presentation' was at least as poor as his writings. I am praising with faint damns, here.

    Dew was surprisingly ill at ease and unprepared; despite his claimed NU Journalism degree, he is certainly no Ransom Stoddard.
    Really not much of a surprise since he professionally is nothing more than a contract 2nd unit TV sports cameraman.

    Running a poor second in the good hair/beard dye category was the old beret-wearing thing that calls itself JJHurtak.

    The award for the most responsible behaviour goes to Dolan, who wisely walked out on set, sat on his chair, and said nothing. Well done, Richard!

    ...Oh yeah... the 'alien photos'?

    ...just roughly 2 minutes of 2010 high-school-level-computer-graphics-screwing-around by some possibly infectious-disease-positive pals of Dew, since every time they're shown they are wearing latex surgical gloves...

    By Blogger Loki, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Really, RR?

    "Her background and comments from relatives and friends indicate a well-connected or worldly woman.

    As to whether the slides were hers is circumstantial, but seems to be a real possibility."

    Adam Dew presented some badly-shot video of some nice very old human females giving 'three-cheers' for Hilda Ray.

    NOTHING they said had any bearing on Roswell, or any proof of a connection to the meme Hida Ray, despite Dew's amateurish editing attempts...

    By Blogger Loki, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Oh, come on, RR, this was ALWAYS a set-up for a new Roswell book from Schmitt and Carey. They've always been right up front about this. The Roswell "Dream Team" came together to write a new Roswell book, but to legitimize it they needed a sensational new smoking gun. Next thing you know... "Hey! Roswell Slides!"

    By Blogger Mark OC, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Yes, Mark...

    But one would think they would have been more subtle.

    I just wrote to Nick Redfern that the event was an ego-trip for Carey/Schmitt.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Is our great investigator Anthony Bragalia now going to step forward and give us HIS views on the presentation?

    And can he please provide an answer to the perpetual question, which is:

    ARE WE ALONE?

    Or are we to assume that the Mexico City presentation provided this answer?

    By Blogger cda, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Once the dust settles, I imagine Mr. Bragalia will weigh in....at least I hope so.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Rich:

    I would say now is the time for everyone to weigh in, so we can put this to rest.

    And also to answer certain questions, like why so little (any?) discussion, in Mexico, of what the placard might have said?

    Why weren't we told there was another head in the picture that appears to have ZERO to do with aliens, but may be a medical oddity, wolf, or trophy head?

    Has the DT even addressed that furry critter?

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Nick:

    I just asked Mr. Bragalia if he has any info on that furry head?

    He or I will provide whatever is known about it.

    And yes, it's odd (and out of place in the context of an alien body?).

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • What I think is important is that those placards are very small. That suggests they lack detailed information. Surely they would be highly descriptive if they were meant to inform people with high clearance what they showed. That the placards ARE so small suggests to me they might say something brief like, "Mummified child, found in Brazil, 1944," or "Malformed wolf, 1938." Placards of that size (or lack of size) are clearly intended for the casual viewer.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • What is also important is that the placard on the clear hi-res image provided by Dolan to Coast-to-Coast has been digitally 'whited-out'.

    I wonder if what was written there might tend to disrupt their narrative?

    By Blogger Loki, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • The second picture seen in this link
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CETET43WgAEfF1N.jpg
    provided by Zak, you can almost see the writing on the placard. It shows up whiter than the bluish placard , does someone know a way to use some software to enhance this ?

    By Blogger Tanhauser Gate, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Also after listening to the "verbal ballet" displayed by richard dolan and george noory on last nights c2c, I have to say Dolan's credibility has gone right out the window. Anyone associated with this obvious fraud should be ashamed of themselves.

    By Blogger Tanhauser Gate, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • "Dolan's credibility has gone right out the window."

    Dolan and credibility?

    That's an amusing pairing.

    Why did Maussan get generic "UFO" conspiracy hack Richard Dolan to appear?

    Because Stan Friedman had sense enough to refuse the invitation, and Bozo the Clown was busy!

    By Blogger zoamchomsky, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • Tannhauser:

    I got this from the ATS-Forum:

    http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ur554a7e80.jpg

    http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/oj554a7f4b.jpg

    By Blogger Zak McKracken, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

  • LOl zoamchomsky, yeah your right. I guess Dolan always just seemed to get a pass for some reason b y me. but yep what a mess

    By Blogger Tanhauser Gate, at Wednesday, May 06, 2015  

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