UFO Conjecture(s)

Wednesday, June 10, 2015

Week in Weird's article about the "slides mummy" before it became famous

Here's the mummy photo:


  • Yes, this is outstanding work by Jose, despite Bragalia's attempt to muscle in at Randle's blog. Tony, as Gilles has stated, had nothing to do with this latest find...nothing.

    Tony acts like a mythical "Homeric" character that has been given a reprieve by the gods. Tony needs to spend more time in the "time out" corner...

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Wednesday, June 10, 2015  

  • I'm going to have to, I'm afraid, publish e-mails from the outset of the slides story that corrects the matter once and for all.

    That Kevin is allowing such chicanery is outrageous in a way.

    These fellows have no ethics or morality it seems.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, June 10, 2015  

  • Thanks RRR. I didn't even notice the credit issue until you and Gilles pointed it out.

    By Blogger Timothy Brigham, at Wednesday, June 10, 2015  

  • The "Homeric" heros (AJB) wrote: I was the one who, when provided clearer versions of the slides, within 72 hours found the NPS Mesa Verde Notes finally confirming the identity of the slides body

    How to reverse the FACTS and to become "clean". Without how RSRG decyphered the placard, no "coming out" by AJB. This guy is trying to become clean despite all he wrote and have removed regarding the slides as depicting an alien being (Google cache is my/your friend).


    By Blogger Gilles Fernandez, at Wednesday, June 10, 2015  

  • I think Gilles, that AJB has opened a Pandora's box of ills (afflicting him) by co-opting Jose's find and story.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, June 10, 2015  

  • It is not he first time a video or image acted like an inkblot projective test for AJB and his Roswell filter.

    In circa 2010/2011 AJBcontacted me by email for a YT video concerning a stealth bomber.One his "smocking gun". Where I warned him it was artefacts due to compression, AJB was seing "Reverse engineering" (from Roswell of course) and parts of the bomber "morphing"...


    Well, that's AJB, after all.


    By Blogger Gilles Fernandez, at Wednesday, June 10, 2015  

  • The effort of late by the entire dream-team clan seems to be that of pitiable attempts at rehabilitation. They seek to reclaim some small amount of legitimacy even to the point of committing acts of plagiarism. This is shameful of course, but no more and no less shameful than their earlier efforts to perpetrate a hoax.

    I will never believe that anyone in that group actually believed the pictures showed anything other than a mummy. Their effort was to try to inject some new subject matter into the long-dead Roswell myth. This would have enhanced their reputations as world-renowned Roswell researchers and aided their book sales and perhaps increased invitations to UFO conferences. I believe this was their intent from the outset even though they knew the truth full well.

    Of course there would have been some doubters and naysayers - they knew this and had "experts" available to counter the arguments. But, they were counting on using the Be Witness event to further propagate the Roswell myth and then profit from it. Fortunately, through the fine work of the RSRG, the hoax was quickly outed and those involved in the scheme shown to be the charlatans many of us knew them to be.

    Unfortunately there are those out there that seek to help the clan in their rehabilitation efforts. One only has to look to motive to understand why. Mr. Randle is motivated to keep the Roswell myth alive. He fears the Slides controversy is damaging too deeply some of the players involved. KGRA hosts see some of their most highly prized guests (on-air content) being damaged and are trying to help by giving the players a one-sided stage to voice their excuses and make even more outrageous claims - all to reduce the damage to their reputations.

    While I agree with Rich that these people should be shunned, that will not happen quickly or easily - we cannot just 'move on and put this behind us'. These people are like the bullies at grade school - they will continue to steal lunch money from the weak-minded and gullible. Every time they stick their heads up they need to be roundly criticized and thoroughly humiliated. This should continue until they choose to remove themselves from the subject matter altogether.

    By Blogger Dennis Pharr, at Wednesday, June 10, 2015  

  • It's a wonder that AJB has any limbs left by now after gnawing them off in such feeble attempts to save himself from his self-induced Slides trap. When it comes to listening to his excuses, I just think of this:

    By Blogger Ron, at Wednesday, June 10, 2015  

  • i adjusted the latest mummy headline above and link so the name of the fellow who actually found the early material about the mummy would be noted: Jorge Peredo

    Neither Jose Caravaca nor Anthony Bragalia had anything to do with the valuable discovery.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, June 10, 2015  

  • "I'm going to have to, I'm afraid, publish e-mails from the outset of the slides story that corrects the matter once and for all."


    More likely that you will, once again, I'm afraid, put this whole blogpost thread down the memory hole.

    By Blogger Tony Stark, at Thursday, June 11, 2015  

  • Perhaps AJB should have realised that the 'alien' depicted in the slides was made of nitinol, as so smartly pointed out by George32.

    By Blogger cda, at Thursday, June 11, 2015  

  • Issac Koi posted the source of this picture


    By Blogger Zak McKracken, at Thursday, June 11, 2015  

  • Isaac Koi made this comment that I've edited (for personal reasons).

    Just to clarify Zak's post above (and make sure there is no problem with proper credit being given), I have posted elsewhere ... the source of the picture on Kevin Randle's blog.


    In short, it appears that the relevant photo was uploaded in 2008 to a Picasaweb album at the link below:


    It will be (mildly) interesting to see how Maussan responds to this 2008 source, given that Maussan has made repeated unqualified statements that the photo supplied by Jorge Peredo was a fraud and a painting clearly created in Photoshop in an attempt to debunk his event in Mexico unveiling the "Roswell Slides" on 5 May 2015.

    Isaac Koi

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, June 11, 2015  

  • Isaac Koi continues (edited by me -- nothing bad from Isaac just a personal edit):

    By the way, following up ... I contacted the owner of that web album today. Her husband (Frank Hadl) promptly emailed me and confirmed that he took the relevant photo in December 1956.

    He was in the Air Force then and single and just arrived at Luke AFB for gunnery training.

    Frank Hadl has kindly provided me with a scan of a relevant slide (dated 12/56 on the bottom left corner).

    I've uploaded the image of the relevant slide kindly by Frank Hadl to the link below:


    As I comment in my brief post at that link, the "Roswell Slides" story may have been a bit shorter if the slides had been annotated in the same way as Frank Hadl's slide of the same "alien"/mummy. Frank Hadl's slide of the mummy he photographed in December 1956 was annotated as being a "mummy, at Montezuma Castle" and he recorded the date of his photo as well ("12/56"). Label your slides people...

    Isaac Koi

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, June 11, 2015  

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