UFO Conjecture(s)

Tuesday, June 02, 2015


TLS, The Times Literary Supplement for May 22nd, 2015 has a review of Marius Hentea's book, Tata Dada about the founder of the Dada art movement (about the same time as the 1896 airship sightings in California), Tristan Tzara [Page 21 ff.].

The review opens with this: "It is ... foolish and self-destructive to lead a Dada life", the poet Andrei Codrescu has written, because a Dada life will "include ... pranks, buffoonery ... intoxication, sabotage, taboo-breaking, playing childish and/or dangerous games, waking up dead gods, and not taking education seriously."

This struck me as defining what's going on in ufology and the UFO community, best exampled by the current commentary at Kevin Randle's blog.



  • Dada?

    Remember the (in)famous General Idi Amin Dada, president of Uganda in the 1970s? Woe betide anyone who crossed his path. I mention this for one reason only - he had a UFO sighting while president (a rival, in a way, to Jimmy Carter). Don't ask me the sighting details. I am certain it is highly unimportant.

    So yes, Ufology = Dada as you say!

    By Blogger cda, at Tuesday, June 02, 2015  

  • Dada is a French expression to design an hobby, passion, obsession, too.
    So yes, Ufology = Dada.

    By Blogger Gilles Fernandez, at Tuesday, June 02, 2015  

  • Rich:

    I realize this post is off-topic, but I need to get the message to you and I don’t have your e-mail address. This is a copy of a message I posted at Kevin’s site.

    When I joined this blogsite some years ago, it was with the hope and intention to engage in collegial dialogue with knowledgeable individuals on the phenomena and epiphenomena of UFOs. It was never my intention to end up spending inordinate amounts of time on acrimonious heated interchanges over personalities.

    It has always been clear to me that the tendency for discussion on this subject to devolve into simple ego contests is built in to the psychodynamics of the two main opposing positions. It would take conscious effort on the part of all concerned to avoid it, and that effort is just not happening. To me, this animosity is just one more additional source of entropy in an already chaotic situation. My typical response is to try to avoid or ignore it whenever I can. Of course, when anyone feels they are unjustly attacked they will usually respond with anger and often reply in kind. The original attacker will then feel that they are the victim of an unfair attack and respond in kind, ad nauseum. I have certainly played my part in this little danse macabre over the years--but with quite a bit of reluctance. In my professional world, an individual can go an entire career without being the target of this kind of bare-knuckles, barroom assault. In the UFO blog world, it is impossible to go more than 2 or 3 paragraphs. For some, the ego contest is the whole point of the exercise; far from avoiding it, they seek it out. When there isn’t enough of it, they manufacture more.

    While the wallowing in ego-driven personality conflict is distasteful to me personally, I have been willing to tolerate some of it as the cost of of doing business here--as long as its amplitude does not grow to dominate every interchange. This whole “Roswell Slides” “discussion” has become nothing but shit-slinging. Moreover, in the last few weeks I have become the subject of increasingly nasty, heated, and persistent personal attacks by the usual handful of uber-debunkers, with Lance at the head of the lynch mob even though I had no substantial role in the trajectory that that episode took. In the normal course of events, this would be a stimulus for me to counterattack even harder, etc.

    Instead, I have decided to be a conscientous objector. I don’t want any part of that happy horseshit. Lance and the others can enjoy it entirely by and for themselves. It is clear that I have irreconcilable differences with them, so I think it is best if we part ways.

    It is my intention to stop posting here and at Kevin’s website. I will cease to be an irritant to them and therefore no longer a subject for discussion. For your part, I would respectfully request that you use your capacity as blogsite editor to either block and/or delete any future postings that are either addressed to me or talk about me.

    I personally respect and appreciate the time and effort you’ve put in to the UFO debate and I would be happy to have conversations with you personally and individually.

    By Blogger Larry, at Tuesday, June 02, 2015  

  • Larry,

    You are not alone in being "attacked" sometimes mercilessly; Joel Crook also seems to be ripe for "bullying" as he puts it.

    I would hope you'd reconsider your vow to stop commenting here as your views are among the few that make sense and inform.

    I'll try to offset or keep at bay any comment that goes to making you uncomfortable.

    After all, I do that with comments directed at me (many) -- I just don't post them.

    So stick with us and the UFO commentary. We and it needs you.

    It's "Dada" you know.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, June 02, 2015  

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