UFO Conjecture(s)

Tuesday, October 13, 2015

The MIB Psychoses

Nick Redfern’s new MIB book [Men in Black: Personal Stories & Eerie Adventures] is replete with MIB tales from a host of people, famous, infamous, and common, as I’ve noted in my consideration of Nick’s book here earlier.

Nick presents the MIB tales without taking any side about them, leaving open the idea that they may be psychic in nature.

I take the psychic view one step further, while allowing that some persons have actually been approached by men, dressed in black, warning or threatening them with reprisals if they go public with what they’ve seen: UFOs usually.

My view is that some (not all) MIB witnesses, such as ‘Dean Francis” who contributes Chapter 20 in Nick’s book, have had psychotic/hallucinatory experiences that they deem to be real. They are not hoaxing, but have had or are having experiences of a psychotic nature.

“Mr. Francis” (who frequented Physical Phenomena séances and was a Spiritual healing devotee) is a prime example. He notes [Pages 160-161] his feelings of being followed after speaking about a sighting/encounter he had in Belgrave, and how he started hearing voices one year afterwards, while severely ill.

Mr. Francis had several alleged sightings of UFOs (many first seen as flashing lights) and small humanoids (like the archetypal greys in UFO lore).

He also once saw “Men in suits, standing and flying alongside the Grays.” [Page 168 ff.]

Now I suggest you get Nick’s book and read the whole Dean Francis story to get the gist of what I am speculating.

And that is Mr. Francis had ongoing symptomatic psychotic bouts subsumed by psycho-sensorial hallucinations [as distinguished by Baillarger].

Each MIB story has elements easily and glibly defined as psychotic in nature but that gloss, all by itself, would be foolish.

As noted, Nick doesn’t (nor I) think that all MIB contacts are psychical fantasies, but some surely are.

Yet, from what neurological gap in the brain (or mind) comes such hallucinations?

And from where do actual psysical Men In Black come from? And they do show up, mysteriously, to some, from without a dysfunctional mind.

Note the Men in Black in the Munch painting



  • I would venture to say that you've already identified the source for some psychic experiences. The MIB have been associated with UFOs for some time now. Anyone who follows UFOs has heard of them, and those who don't follow UFOs (especially those in Western Culture) have their subconscious exposed through TV shows, books, and Hollywood movies.

    The combination of seeing something unidentifiable or even discussing the paranormal may catalyze the subconscious to see such men.

    I haven't read Nick's book, and perhaps this is answered, but why does it seem only people in developed nations have MIB experiences? Why not the Aborigine, Pacific Islander, Eskimo or Central African?

    Do natives living in the Amazon have men wearing 1950's style black suits knocking on the door of their bamboo huts?

    By Blogger Brian Bell, at Wednesday, October 14, 2015  

  • Brian:

    No Third or Fourth World MIB tales in Nick's book, but the first Chapter (mine) presents historical and legendary encounters with pre-MIBs: The Men in White.

    It would be interesting to know if persons from lesser developed countries, who've seen and reported UFOs to their authorities, have been contacted by MIBs or anything resembling same.

    That may be material for another book by Nick.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, October 14, 2015  

  • Interesting.

    I'm conjecturing that undeveloped nations see similar things but not quite MIB and maybe not with a knock on the door.

    Perhaps they are seen in visions and dreams or sacred ceremonies and rituals.

    But in what form? God-like beings? Human-animal spirit guides? Dead shamen ...?

    Mostly what is reported are ancestral spirits.

    By Blogger Brian Bell, at Wednesday, October 14, 2015  

  • Maybe Nick has a take.

    I'll ask him.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, October 14, 2015  

  • The closest I can think of is when I went on my second expedition to Puerto Rico, in search of the Chupacabra,in late 2005. This was for a week or so with Paul Kimball's Red Star Films to shoot for a TV show called "Fields of Fear" (for Canada's Space Channel).

    While we were there, we interviewed a guy who owned a farm in a little village in the wilds of Puerto Rico and who had a MIB and WIB (Woman in Black) visit - described as the classic black suit, pale-skin, odd behavior.

    For the record, as Rich knows, I don't believe the MIB/WIB (the latter a subject I'll have a book out on soon) are anything to do with the government - or any government. However we define the term "the paranormal," that's what they are.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Wednesday, October 14, 2015  

  • Last year, I went on my 8th or 9th trip to Puerto Rico in search of the Chupacabra, with a team from the Travel Channel, for a show called "Mysteries at the National Parks."

    The episode was called "Chupacabra Island." It was first aired around 3 months ago, I think.

    It's now up at YouTube, and the 2005 MIB/Woman in Black story is related/re-created in the show.

    Here's the link:


    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Wednesday, October 14, 2015  

  • Thanks to both of you.

    I would agree that MIB seem to have nothing in common with any goverment and best classified as paranormal. Cheers!

    By Blogger Brian Bell, at Wednesday, October 14, 2015  

  • I just watched the link provided and suffered through the endless string of suggestive questions that is the current style of Ancient Aliens and Monster Hunters et al. This format uses a string of questions to advance a questions into an answer. It is current format of choice for television/video pseudomentaries.

    Here again we have the bogeyman, that creature of the dark, the forests, and the jungles where men and children don't belong and the women scream uncontrollably. The added untraceable MIB bogeymen of ufology, without badges or ID present that final proof/question to confirm the unconfirmed.


    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Thursday, October 15, 2015  

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