UFO Conjecture(s)

Friday, November 06, 2015

We can’t know what UFOs are? Nor many other things….

A review, by Martin Kemp, in the Times Literary Supplement of October 23rd, 2015 about Nobel Prize winner Frank Wilczek’s new book, A Beautiful Question: Finding nature’s deep design [Allen Lane, £25] ends with this:

“Could we use the anamorphic analogy in a different way, to ask if the distorted image is a real one and whether we are only equipped with an optical and mental apparatus that makes its reflection in our eyes seem locally coherent, but which permits no access to the real image? Some observers might posit that what we see as real is a distortion of a reality to which we have no access.” [Italics mine, Page 4]

This is a culmination of an analysis of Wilczek’s elaborate and refined take on the beauty of the “Core Theory” of physics and the math that accompanies the “theory.”

But reviewer Kemp writes that Wilczek “… knowingly slides around the central question about who or what is responsible for the organization of the world at atomic and cosmic levels.” [Page 3]

And Mr. Kemp refers to Leonardo da Vinci’s view that “Outside is the unknowable infinity of the ‘prime mover’.”

“Modern physics and cosmology have so extended the reach or potential reach of the mind into multiple dimensions, multiverses and infinity, that they have squeezed God’s potential realm into something so physically remote and conceptually abstract as to preclude and clear visualization of the deity on our own terms.” [Page 3]

(This is the view of the Kabbalists, also.)

Wilczek eschews string theory: “Given its apparent untestability, string theory has been called a threat to science – even a pernicious kind of metaphysics. Wilczek implicitly encourages his readers to be deaf to it.” [Page 4]

“… the beauty embodied in the physical world is a particular kind of beauty. Nature, as an artist, has a distinctive style”, essentially mathematical, symmetrical and succinct. “The world does not embody all forms of beauty … Science isn’t everything, thank goodness.”[Page 4]

What Wilczek tells his readers in his book is that there is beauty in nature and we can see it or try to, but something of the ultimate truth will elude us.

What this boils down for me is a confirmation that, just as the ineffable God is unknowable, some of Its attributes and creations are also unknowable in essence.

Carl Jung and his acolyte Joseph Campbell also stress this as does Thomas Aquinas in his Summa Theologica [Q.12: Eleventh article].

Thus one can extrapolate that some things cannot be known, ever, and I believe we may, after years of pondering, that UFOs, too, are unknowable.

Paul Kimball stressed in a comment here, recently, that one (me) shouldn’t scorn UFO buffs for their attention to the phenomenon but, rather, allow them (buffs) to enjoy the wonder of UFOs.

He has a point.

Trying to understand UFOs, their intrinsic nature, may be futile, just as Wilczek sees many of the topics of physics, and Jung, Campbell, Aquinas see the nature of God.

Kevin Randle’s current effort to decipher the Roswell artifact – the Ramey memo – is an attempt, at bottom, to find a clue as to what happened in Roswell in 1947 which may (or may not) impact UFOs, providing an explanation – for Kevin and his minions that UFOs are ET craft perhaps.

But, again, such a clue would leave us with a basic conundrum, much as the wave/particle theory inherent to quantum mechanics; that is, so Roswell was, indeed, a crash flying disk, but is that what UFOs are?

It opens a maw that can’t be explained or understood when all is said and done.

UFOs are an enigma, not as great as that of the supposed “prime mover” of creation but of a similar kind: beautiful to some, but contorted to the point that not all see the beauty, allowing an unknowability that is the essence of the things,

That’s where we are in “ufology” and it’s not a good thing, but there it is…



  • The fact that Frank Wilczek is a genius and a quantum physicist doesn't make him a philosopher; and with rare exception, when a physicist writes popular books that include his beliefs on anything outside of physics--especially when he speaks to his quantum metaphysics--then it's probably best to put on hipwaders.

    To project meaning, ideas of truth, beauty or symmetry, onto a universe of indeterminancy and random violence is simply a conceit of our bilateral perceptual apparatus.

    We live here--not in ultramicroscopic strings or the ultramacroscopic bulk--and it could just as well be turtles all the way up and down when ordinary human being, living life on this Earth everyday is concerned. When I look at the sky, the naked existential physicality of the Universe is all the truth and beauty there is and all I need. Meaningless godstuff, however neuron-ticklingly wonderful, is for saps.

    I could compare Wilczek to Wolfram but that would be insulting Wolfram. However worthless NKS might be, at least Wolfram ideas have substance, are potentially falsifiable, I think.

    "Some observers might posit that what we see as real is a distortion of a reality to which we have no access."

    Some might, but given our real world experience it would not follow, it would be illogical: Even if what we see is an illusion, it simply does not follow that the real world, whatever that might be, is inaccessible.

    "In both science and art, symmetry and exuberance arouse a sense of wonder and the urge to explore further. The challenge is to connect those abstract cosmic ideas with the personal experience of beauty."

    I must be missing that virulent gene, I never could see the man in the Moon, the face on Mars, or any letters in the Ramey memo. (g)


    By Blogger zoamchomsky, at Friday, November 06, 2015  

  • We are in a world of delusion, Zoam....mostly on the part of our pals in the UFO community and those who use Facebook.

    If there is a reality we are immersed in, it is distorted by our human colleagues, who mess up the real reality.

    The Ramey memo is the UFO Rorschach.

    Those playing with it via Kevin's blog (and a few others) are indulging in a kind of psycho-analysis that has become a mass hysteria.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, November 06, 2015  

  • You've got it! Rorschach has crossed my mind several times in the past week when reading at Kevin's but I didn't type it because I want to be helpful if I can, not critical of his recent efforts. But it's certainly true of DR and the like.

    I'd like to think that an imaging analyst programmer is working on it at this very moment. I think that such a successful analysis will show that the memo--if not just mundane base business--describes the Mogul balloon-train debris seen on the floor.

    That's the most logical scenario. It's just as hard to believe that it's some "contradictory to appearances" loose-end smoking gun of inept conspiracists as it is to believe the "crashed saucer and little alien bodies" conspiracy fantasy itself. The real-world context of evidence conspires to expose the Roswell myth.

    And Brian's excellent observation of "fake debris so fake memo"--which enhances the non-falsifiability of the conspiracy scenario even if the memo is never resolved--should be appreciated as an extremely sound point of argument and not forgotten, especially by skeptics, not that argument means much to committed Roswell fanatics.

    "a kind of psycho-analysis that has become a mass hysteria."

    You are a Hoot!

    By Blogger zoamchomsky, at Friday, November 06, 2015  

  • The Ramey memo is Rudiak's claim to fame.

    That Kevin's followers are also so wrapped up in the nonsense is almost startling.

    I'd like to see the memo clearly, just so it can be read and forgotten.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, November 06, 2015  

  • This seems to me a puzzle that goes back at least to the time of Archimedes and his Punctum Archimedis.

    By Blogger Parakletos, at Sunday, November 08, 2015  

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