UFO Conjecture(s)

Wednesday, December 30, 2015

The 1959 Reverend Gill sighting [Redux]

                  From DavidDicke.com

The Gill sighting, which all of you are familiar with, is a good one and is recapped at these web-sites:

I initially thought that Gill and his parishioners may have witnessed a mirage, but Martin Kottmeyer ruled that out in his examination of the sighting:

Reverend Gill is seen recounting the event(s) via a YouTube entry:

This is a credible, honest witness account.

What interests me are several listings in Aubeck/Vallee’s Wonders in the Sky:

One in 749 A.D. Ulster, Ireland where “Ships, with their crews, were seen in the air above Cluain Moccu.” [Page 67]

And France (circa 760) “The air was filled with human figures …” [ibid]

12 May 922 Bulgaria “ … A cloud [was seen] … And lo! [there were] seen in it something like men …” [Page 77]

20 March 1812 near Manosque, France “ … a luminous ball … split into four lights. Four human figures were seen, inside the objects. …” [Page 292]

Beams of light were often observed also, as in the Gill sighting.
                      From UFOevidence.com 

There are many more such incidents listed in Wonders

What does this tells us? That Reverend Gill’s observation and that of his church members is not unique, and may represent a recurrence of a phenomenon or other kind of event that is trying to tell us (humans) something.



  • Before I even opened your link, I had in mind to comment on the blue light of Gill's sighting. What a good coincidence to find that it's your focus.

    Taken at face value, it seems suggestive of a projection; as if something was projecting a scene from elsewhere. Gill recounted that the blue glow was emanating from the centre of the object and generated a 'curious halo that outlined them, following every contour of their figures and yet did not touch them.'

    A mise en scène?

    By Blogger Kandinsky, at Wednesday, December 30, 2015  

  • What is really interesting, perhaps, Kandinsky....

    is that Bosco Nedelcovic, the DoD employee who worked for A.I.D. and the CIA in South America (and elsewhere) told me, as Nick Redfern elaborated on in his book "Contactees" (and is recounted at the RRRGroup blog, early on in the postings) that the U.S. military was using projective devices (some holographic) in its "mise en scene" that was the Villas Boas episode.

    The Gill "sighting' struck me as, possibly, a similar contrivance, created by a military operation, however it would seem that such an "experiment" would be a British attempt or Australian, because of the locale, but why.

    This is almost convoluted, but can be pieced together by a serious investigation, if someone wants to do so.

    Either way, the "sighting" fascinates, for several reasons, and similar sightings (as those cited from the Aubeck/Vallee book) indicate appearances before projection goofiness was extant.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, December 30, 2015  

  • As I was re-reading some of the details, I was reminded of the tilted saucers that have featured in the close encounter reports of the 1950s and 1960s. A couple of the sketches conformed to that unlikely field of view whereby an object above the witness contrives to display its upper surface.

    There used to be reports of the occupants waving or otherwise doing 'pilot stuff.' What bugged me was a craft some 40 feet above a witness and maybe 40-50 feet away would have to tilt significantly for the occupants to even be visible.

    Now before someone interjects and corrects me on a detail there; I'm not using figures from the Gill sighting. Rather I'm generalising to make a point.

    Rich, I can speculate all day about projections. It's a fascinating notion that helps to trim away some of the more difficult aspects of reports. After all, if we're talking about covert projections, we don't need to reconcile the problems of interstellar space with the presence of ostensibly other-worldly crafts. Far more 'Ockhamy' than the ETH.

    On the other hand, I'm still unsatisfied with it as an overarching explanation. I frequently return to a 'third' agency that we just don't know about.

    By Blogger Kandinsky, at Wednesday, December 30, 2015  

  • A third agency indeed, K.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, December 30, 2015  

  • A third agency indeed, K.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, December 30, 2015  

  • RR,

    While other reporting elements don't fit, -the waving men outside and on top of the craft, landing gear, the men reaching up and adjusting,... sure sounds like men in a gondola suspended from an unseen balloon.


    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Thursday, December 31, 2015  

  • Oh geez, Bryan...

    That may get Gilles Fernandez riled up (as he hates the balloon/gondola sightings of any year, but especially 1896, which he insists are Venus misperceptions).


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, December 31, 2015  

  • Meant to include the chuckle of the observers getting bored and going in for dinner... and that if the aerial folk had landed they might come in for a bite.


    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Thursday, December 31, 2015  

  • I found that odd too, Bryan...

    Who'd leave such a weird, intriguing sight, no matter how hungry they were?

    (But Reverend Gill addresses the reason in the YouTube offering.)


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, December 31, 2015  

  • I've been interested in UFO sightings since I did a "research paper" for a high school physics class back in 1958. Wow, that dates me but what the heck. I regard the Father Gill sightings as probably the most interesting of all of the classic UFO reports. I know, I know, there is no film or landings traces or radar (!) but it is a multiple witness report of very high strageness. Two points of note: Gill reported the back and forth "pendulum" motion so common with dozens of other UFO reports; and the fact that there were as many as 60 reported sightings of UFOs in the weeks preceeding the Gill event. Something strange was definitely observed (I rule out hoax or misidentification of a natural event) and the possible explanations are damn few. A "projection" from some governmental agency? I put that probability about as close to zero as one can go.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Thursday, December 31, 2015  

  • If the locale were different, I'd consider the "projection" idea maybe, but as it is, along with those similar past accounts, one has to rule out such a speculation, Dominick.

    There have been other sightings, after 1959, that mimic the Gill observation. (I put them online here a short while back, and will see if I can locate the postings in this blog's archive listing.)\\

    Gill's YouTube account confirms for me that hoax or planet misinterpretation don't fit the sighting.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, December 31, 2015  

  • The Father Gill sighting is invariably paraphrased in an omnibus collection of UFOs stories, the paraphrase itself copied from another omnibus collection. However, if you want to read the full report in his own words, I put it on the net three years ago. You can read it at: http://malcolmsanomalies.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/ufos-over-boiani-in-father-gills-own.html .

    By Blogger Malcolm Smith, at Saturday, January 02, 2016  

  • My gosh... It must have been the Rapture. And we all missed it...

    By Blogger Parakletos, at Sunday, January 03, 2016  

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